$3000.00 sounds like a fair deal for the package. Boat itself- $1800.00

 

20 years ago that boat was $1800. This mentality is why I bought a new raft.

 

Is this how to put something up for sale in the gear section?

 

Not trying to sell here, I have a friend who is interested but I have no clue what to ask.

Regarding original cost, I believe retail price for the package was $5,500 - $6,000.

 

I'd say 1000, 1800 is high even for a mid 90s Hypalon raft. I have a friend looking for a used Aire but would not go more than 1000 for this based on what else is on the market in that price range. Gear sounds nice but like you said it is 20 year old high end gear, but, if the frame and box are in good shape they should be as good as new.

 

I just sold my 30 year old hypalon self bailer, frame/oars/drybox/cooler for $2500. The boat was in excellent shape with no holes or damage. I had someone else willing to pay $2700 but it already sold.

If it is in as good of shape as you say you can probably get $3000 out of it if you're not in a hurry. I'd start there. You can always negotiate the price, or lower it if you're not getting nibbles.

Or maybe used gear goes for a lot more out here?

 

I'm an Aire enthusiast and have owned and sold lots of boats. I recommend listing at $2,900 and dropping $100 per week until it sells. It'll sell within a month at this fair, but competitive price.

 

Here is your competition Maravia raft Williwaw II I would say 2500-3000

 

Paid $800 for a 14' 1999 Hyside in good condition this past March

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I'm not saying that there are not deals to be had out there. It takes an enormous amount of effort or none to find one. There are some great used boats on the market, but if they have a "fishing" frame on them, the owner thinks that it is gold plated and marks it up 100% from where it should be. (see the super puma with fish frame and trailer in the swap for $5000) The rest of the deals get quietly bought up by friends and family or are snapped up so fast on the sites that they might as well not exist. To find the best deal, you have to know someone that knows someone. If you are buying retail used boats, the best deal is the one you can afford to buy at the time you see it.

 

Thanks everyone, this is hugely helpful! I appreciate the different perspectives.

I decided to offer it to my friend for $2100 for boat, frame and cooler. I will keep the oars and drybox for possible use in a future cat since they both are in new condition and nicer then my friend is likely looking to pay for. I will let you know if they buy it.

 

Folks saying that something shouldn't cost nearly as many dollars now as it did when it was purchased aren't taking inflation into account. For example, if the OP's raft cost $1800 new in 1996 he would have to charge $2732 for the raft today to "break even". Obviously the raft is worth "less" now than it was new, but you have to take inflation into account.

Including a link to the calculator for reference http://www.dollartimes.com/inflation/inflation.php?amount=1800&year=1918

 

Folks saying that something shouldn't cost nearly as many dollars now as it did when it was purchased aren't taking inflation into account. For example, if the OP's raft cost $1800 new in 1996 he would have to charge $2732 for the raft today to "break even". Obviously the raft is worth "less" now than it was new, but you have to take inflation into account.

Including a link to the calculator for reference Calculate the value of $1800 in 1918 - Inflation on 1800 dollars - DollarTimes.com

But this doesn't account for depreciation or wear & tear.

I think the point of this post is that the $1800 boat in 1996 would cost $2732 now. What do you think this 18 yo boat would've gone for on the used market back then? $800? Inflation on that figure prob puts it around $1200 now, based on the numbers you used.

Disclaimer: 800 is an arbitrary number and I did no research on inflation rates, I only used the numbers from the post to interpolate.

 

If you are patient and look around you can find a high end used self bailers (& gear) for sub $1000. But they don't last long. If you are patient and find the right buyer you can sell a high end used self bailer (more than 10 years old) for more than 2k, and a complete package for up to 3k. I have done both.

It all depends on finding the right motivated sellers, the right motivated buyer, one's patients level, and how much one looks around. Of course the great deals sell faster.

Bottom line is there is a big price range for a quality older self bailer.

 

Rafting products cannot be compared on a standard inflationary scale. It's a niche market, not typical goods and services. Niche products in the outdoor community, especially whitewater sports has nearly doubled in the last 7-10 years.

An Aire raft that was sub $3K 10-12 years ago would now cost $5-6K now. (not considering special sales or the like) A premium brand raft, frame, oars, straps and a few basics just to get running day trips could easily run $8-9K. Add in "stuff" for overnighters and you could hit $10-12K for all new items.

If you got a straight 10% off a "basics" package, you're still looking at $7500 new, no frills. If a person who has this "premium" equipment and took great care of it, for sale at say $5500, that's about 35% off retail. That doesn't seem out of line to me for a package deal that someone took great care of.

Miles don't depreciate this type of equipment like it does an automobile. It's time and care.

 

Rafting products cannot be compared on a standard inflationary scale. It's a niche market, not typical goods and services. Niche products in the outdoor community, especially whitewater sports has nearly doubled in the last 7-10 years.

An Aire raft that was sub $3K 10-12 years ago would now cost $5-6K now. (not considering special sales or the like) A premium brand raft, frame, oars, straps and a few basics just to get running day trips could easily run $8-9K. Add in "stuff" for overnighters and you could hit $10-12K for all new items.

If you got a straight 10% off a "basics" package, you're still looking at $7500 new, no frills. If a person who has this "premium" equipment and took great care of it, for sale at say $5500, that's about 35% off retail. That doesn't seem out of line to me for a package deal that someone took great care of.

Miles don't depreciate this type of equipment like it does an automobile. It's time and care.

Man do I have a good deal on an 14ft '81 Hyside SBer for you.

 

just as a comparison too, here is a post from the buy n sell boards of another forum I frequent (I dunno if there's rules about posting/linking stuff from other boards like this so I stripped out personal info etc....if someone is interested I could get you the number, it's in WV)

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14' NRS Otter SB

This boat is mint condition. 14 ft self bailer loaded NRS fishing frame anchor system. standing platform, Titled trailer with submersible lights. No holes or damage anywhere.Smoking deal $3500

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