[BenSlaughter]

If Coleman would upgrade the look a bit, add a thermal barrier under the burners, and reduce the thickness by an inch, they’d have a perfect stove. I get it that they don’t want to burn the table, but they sure take up a lot of room in a drybox.

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I actually started a project once to design a new stove that had a tough case like the Partner stove, but that used high quality burners, like a Camp Chef. After researching literally every stove out there, I came to the conclusion that it was just too hard to beat the Coleman in terms of compactness, weight, efficiency and burner control. The tooling to manufacture stoves is very expensive, and its really hard to source high quality burners and controls like Camp Chef and Coleman use. Plus, both Coleman and Camp Chef have very extensive safety testing. In contrast, Partner stoves literally use the cheapest, crappiest grade of burners available, which fail so frequently I'm surprise they haven't had some sort of product liability lawsuit.

Seems like I may need to buy a new Coleman(what are they, now? $50), gut it and build a sleeker case. 🤔
I've read reviews of the new GSI saying they can be a bit finicky...

 

[MT4Runner]

I keep trying to convince myself to buy a couple of those new GSI Pinnacle stoves(two will fit in the slot in my kitchen, currently occupied by my Coleman...) But my crusty ole Coleman just wont let me down! It's approaching 30 years old, well used(abused) has fried hundreds of lbs of bacon, boiled countless gallons of water.
Maybe someone will steal it, so I can buy the new shiny.

Ben, are you running a white gas or a propane Coleman?

I have a couple OLD white gas Colemans and have the LPG adapter. I need to compare them to my 10k LPG Coleman stove for output.

If Coleman would upgrade the look a bit, add a thermal barrier under the burners, and reduce the thickness by an inch, they’d have a perfect stove. I get it that they don’t want to burn the table, but they sure take up a lot of room in a drybox.

Honestly, don't upgrade the look--I like a classic--but a thermal barrier and thinner profile --and 15k-20k burners--would be great.

 

[Pinchecharlie]

You can run the old ones on propane? I have a few of them . I have on from my parents they bought in the 60’s lol! Pump pump pump…
Only thing I thinks dumb in these new one is the little arm regulator. I parkid all the money to do a hose to bbig bottle conversion but most times the littl bottle is actually more convenient. Whatayado? I do like the partner that folds and is two burners that’s a great way to have two that’s small but I won’t spend that much ever I don’t think. Be nice to have their water filter too but that’s as much as my mortgage lol

 

[Wallrat]

You can run the old ones on propane? I have a few of them . I have on from my parents they bought in the 60’s lol! Pump pump pump…
Only thing I thinks dumb in these new one is the little arm regulator. I parkid all the money to do a hose to bbig bottle conversion but most times the littl bottle is actually more convenient. Whatayado? I do like the partner that folds and is two burners that’s a great way to have two that’s small but I won’t spend that much ever I don’t think. Be nice to have their water filter too but that’s as much as my mortgage lol

But Charlie…if there’s one undisputed, immutable fact in boating, it’s that spending too much on your stuff makes you a better boater. You’re always saying……..

 

[sonofdad]

You can run the old ones on propane?

short answer, yes. buy one of these converters

this will let you use the 1 lb propane canisters to power your stove.

once you get tired of those things, buy one of these hoses to let you use your normal 20lb tank instead

i still use my old coleman and this setup on occasion, but not as much now that i have a new stansport stove i mentioned earlier in this thread

 

[Pinchecharlie]

I like to look my best as I bash off rocks thank you very much!!!

 

[MT4Runner]

short answer, yes. buy one of these converters
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this will let you use the 1 lb propane canisters to power your stove.

once you get tired of those things, buy one of these hoses to let you use your normal 20lb tank instead
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i still use my old coleman and this setup on occasion, but not as much now that i have a new stansport stove i mentioned earlier in this thread

So how does the adapter/regulator and your old Coleman stove compare in heat output to the new Stansport? Or compare to a Partner with the iddy-biddy 10k burners?

 

[jsheglund]

I just took apart one of my GSI pinnacle stoves. are BTUs a reliable number? Are stoves really measureable or is it marketing mumbo jumbo. I understand pinon has more BTUs that aspen. but propane stove vs propane stove isn't as obvious.

this thing is very simple behind the scenes. I didnt take apart the actual burner, but damn, MFer is basic. I'm maybe might be headed to wal mart tomorrow. is there a chance I can get youtube famous for a side by side test? we will never know..

as an aside. this one apparently suffers from the same problem i sent another one back for. the ignitor wire is melted off on the left burner. I don't care about sparky ignitors because they never work in the breeze at sunset on the river... but i would rather the stove didn't damage itself.

did the left stove cook my dinner faster? or am I just hungry enough to eat a borderline bratwurst?

 

[jeffro]

I'd imagine with these stoves the regulator is most of the BTU rating. So they probably figure out how many BTUs the other bits can safely handle and size the regulator for that.

 

[Wallrat]

I’ve found that without a regulator, a stove will really crank out the heat.

 

[BenSlaughter]

Ben, are you running a white gas or a propane Coleman?

I have a couple OLD white gas Colemans and have the LPG adapter. I need to compare them to my 10k LPG Coleman stove for output.

I run propane Shawn.
Have the bulk-tank adapter and a 5&11# tank(always a couple 1#ers in hiding, for emergency-emergency).
With a PowerStove along, I rarely feel like I'm wanting for more BTU's from my Coleman.

I grabbed a Coleman out of storage this afternoon. There's AT LEAST an inch and a half that could be shaved off their height...Has me thinkin!
BiMart has em in stock for $50(probly $15 at garage sales...). Some sheet aluminum, a little fab work, some heat shielding, and I COULD BE THE COOL KID!!

 

[MT4Runner]

I'd imagine with these stoves the regulator is most of the BTU rating. So they probably figure out how many BTUs the other bits can safely handle and size the regulator for that.

It is, and it isn't.

The burner needs enough ports to get the gas out.
If you just dump more gas into a tiny burner, there's too much flow out the limited ports and it will literally blow itself out.
So more BTU's need both more flow from the regulator and more jets on the burner.

And the converse is also true. If you have too large of burner and not enough flow to it, the flame barely leaves the burner and doesn't spread under your pan--it is then more susceptible to being blown out by a stiff breeze.


I need to get my old Coleman out...the corrugated burner (as opposed to the modern tiny hole stamped burners) may let enough more fuel out for more effective BTU's.

 

[Pinchecharlie]

I kinda half heartedly try to build a blast furnace lol. A little one. I wanted to build knives cause iam ocd/adhd. It was harder than I thought and I started a couple fires trying. Finally a friend gave me a catalog with blanks for sale lol. I actually had this same problem when I bypassed a turkey fryer regulator. It would just blow itself out. Soggy turkeys not good fyi

 

[lncoop]

I grabbed a Coleman out of storage this afternoon. There's AT LEAST an inch and a half that could be shaved off their height...Has me thinkin!
BiMart has em in stock for $50(probly $15 at garage sales...). Some sheet aluminum, a little fab work, some heat shielding, and I COULD BE THE COOL KID!!

#SLAUGHTERSTOVES I'd buy one! Do they work? Who cares?

 

[jeffro]

Butchered stoves by Slaughter has a nice ring to it.

 

[lncoop]

I keep thinking I want a Partner, then I keep thinking I don't. They're just so damned expensive - worth it or not that's a bunch of scratch for a camp stove. I run an Everest off a five pound tank (perfect size in my experience; small enough for trips and costs the same to refill as buying one green bomb) and it works great once I'm able to get the fuel flowing to the burners, which requires initially placing the stove on the ground and leaving it there until said flow materializes. Charlie, there are bulk tank adapter hoses that include the regulator. No more little arm, which I agree is very dumb.

 

[lncoop]

Butchered stoves by Slaughter has a nice ring to it.

Or maybe The Butcher - the four burner model from SLAUGHTERSTOVES (I never met an alliteration I didn't like). I also envision SLAUGHTERSTOVES trucker hats with a burn hole in the bill.

 

[jeffro]

I keep thinking I want a Partner, then I keep thinking I don't. They're just so damned expensive - worth it or not that's a bunch of scratch for a camp stove. I run an Everest off a five pound tank (perfect size in my experience; small enough for trips and costs the same to refill as buying one green bomb) and it works great once I'm able to get the fuel flowing to the burners, which requires initially placing the stove on the ground and leaving it there until said flow materializes. Charlie, there are bulk tank adapter hoses that include the regulator. No more little arm, which I agree is very dumb.

I've got a Partner 2 burner break apart. I like it but I'm not sure it is worth the money (and I got it before the prices went up). It simmers really well and 10k BTU/burner is fine because I have a blaster. I also have an Everest 2 that is a little worse for the wear. I've had to take it apart a few times and the igniter is out of commission with a cracked ceramic insulator. The extra BTUs are nice but the thing is kinda big. I've got a Coleman sitting around that I keep meaning to build a new case/enclosure for like Ben is talking about. Someday. Thanks ADHD. Now that I write this down I realize I might have a stove problem. There's also my Woodland power, multiple Coleman white gas, backpacking stoves....

 

[sonofdad]

So how does the adapter/regulator and your old Coleman stove compare in heat output to the new Stansport? Or compare to a Partner with the iddy-biddy 10k burners?

i'd say it's comparable to the 10K burner on a partner, maybe a bit less. honestly, it's good enough for me and allows me to keep using it without lugging white gas along on outings 🙃

the stansport is worth a look. that thing'll crank out the heat when you need it.

 

[aman]

The stove that burns is the one you use. I've been using the Coleman brand for decades now. White gas, which didn't put out enough BTU's to now a propane model with the hose attachment, has kept me in camp happy and trouble free for almost 30 years now. I can't seem to support spending the cash on anything else that's new and improved. But I also don't keep my stove in a drybox.