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I am in process of building a frame and I am planning on having my front 2 bays being level with the side rails so that I have a large flat surface for lounging as well as a casting deck for fly fishing. Front bay will be a drop bag covered by a table, 2nd bay will have a shallow sportsmans tote of some sort that will have basic kitchen items in it. That will be covered by plywood as well and hinged to get into it.

I was planning on rowing from a canyon prospector 103 cooler.

I have looked at the seadek as well as the nsi foam and hydroturf coverings. Not only are they all very expensive, they also dont seem like they would be that comfortable to be sitting on for long periods of time. I'm guessing that it will cost me $300+ to cover it in any of these types of foam.

I have seen a few rafts where people used the old poly pads that you use for sleeping pads and that got me thinking about using a thick yoga mat. They are comfortable, non-slip, and cheap. I have a dog that will be on the boat so that is the only downside that I can think of. I'm not sure if his nails will puncture the mats or not.

Also does anyone know of a water resistant plastic tote that will fit under the 2nd level deck and I can support it with some straps? I believe that I have about 13" from the bottom of the floor to the top of the rail. I'd like to find something 12 inches tall.

This is the pad that I was thinking about trying out.

https://www.amazon.com/Spoga-Premiu...locphy=9021400&hvtargid=pla-348468328066&th=1
 

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I've thought about using my wife's old yoga mats for this same purpose. I have ethafoam on my dryboxes now, but it's 15 years old and starting to wear thin and peel up despite repeated re-gluing. The mat I have been hoarding in my garage is pretty thin and flexible, more like a backpacking pad similar to the one you linked. I think the key would be making sure it is closed-cell so it doesn't soak up water. And figuring out what sort of adhesive to use that will keep it in place but not dissolve the foam.

For the box question, you might want to check out the Plano sportsman trunks. They are known for making fishing tackle boxes and tactical boxes for guns and stuff, but I've bought a couple of these that I use to contain random gear in the roof basket of my 4Runner for camping trips:

https://www.amazon.com/Plano-Sports...508000&s=gateway&sprefix=plano,aps,237&sr=8-7

That particular one may be a little tall for what you are after, but it's just about the right width to fit between the side tubes. While the material overall isn't super thick, the lid itself is reinforced and is beefy enough to sit and stand on no problem. I've added window stripping in the groove on the lid that the sides go up into when latched and it's so far kept all my stuff dry on the roof through rain storms. Inverted in a rapid would be a different matter. They make a variety of sizes and the lids latch on securely and have holes you can put a padlock through to secure them. Seems like a great potential starter drybox for under $40.
 

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I cut up a yoga mat and glued it to my dry box maybe 2 or 3 years ago after my foam was shot. It's worked totally fine. I think I used liquid nails like normal to glue it on. Mine doesn't get walked on regularly, mostly sat on, but for the money I'd definitely give it a shot and see how it holds up.
 

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I've thought about using my wife's old yoga mats for this same purpose. I have ethafoam on my dryboxes now, but it's 15 years old and starting to wear thin and peel up despite repeated re-gluing. The mat I have been hoarding in my garage is pretty thin and flexible, more like a backpacking pad similar to the one you linked. I think the key would be making sure it is closed-cell so it doesn't soak up water. And figuring out what sort of adhesive to use that will keep it in place but not dissolve the foam.

For the box question, you might want to check out the Plano sportsman trunks. They are known for making fishing tackle boxes and tactical boxes for guns and stuff, but I've bought a couple of these that I use to contain random gear in the roof basket of my 4Runner for camping trips:

https://www.amazon.com/Plano-Sports...508000&s=gateway&sprefix=plano,aps,237&sr=8-7

That particular one may be a little tall for what you are after, but it's just about the right width to fit between the side tubes. While the material overall isn't super thick, the lid itself is reinforced and is beefy enough to sit and stand on no problem. I've added window stripping in the groove on the lid that the sides go up into when latched and it's so far kept all my stuff dry on the roof through rain storms. Inverted in a rapid would be a different matter. They make a variety of sizes and the lids latch on securely and have holes you can put a padlock through to secure them. Seems like a great potential starter drybox for under $40.
I've looked at that exact box but its too tall to fit under my decking. According to Maravia, it is approx 13" from the floor to the top of the frame rail, so I was looking for something around 12"6.

This one is close.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007TOHI7I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
 

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I think it could actually work as a seat if you weren't rigged for decking over it. Maybe with a yoga mat for padding ; )
 

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I think the Yoga mat you pictured would be more than thick/dense enough to withstand doggy paws.
I'd just use 3M Super77 spray adhesive on both it and the ply to adhere it.


I wouldn't waste my money on one of those totes. I had been considering one for a long time, but I think your time/money/effort would be better spent building a custom drybox...or even plywood/Liquid Nails/paint/weatherstripping. In 3-4 years, the wood box will look better than that one, and you'll have the same $$ (but a bit more time) in the wood.
https://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f44/diy-wood-dry-box-51817-2.html#post367906
 

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I'm going to look into making a wooden dry box. It is almost impossible to find a rubber tote that is wide and not over 11 inches tall. I need it to fit inside of a drop bag basically. I have found a few decent options, but I like the idea of making something that I can put dividers in to separate kitchen items as well as dry foods, all in one spot, possibly with milk crates or something along those lines for storage.

This would be PERFECT if it was 2 inches shorter. Thought it might help someone here thought.

https://www.contico.com/storage-lockers
 

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I use a pair of these for food boxes, and they've held up great to getting chucked onto boats and beaches for years. 4 latches, foam gasket, pretty damn tough and keep things dry. I don't have Ziplock brand, but they're essentially identical.


https://www.target.com/p/ziploc-26-5-qt-weathershield-clear-storage-box/-/A-53099601


Edit - Amazon has them in a few sizes under 12" high https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MWTJWXS/ref=twister_B07BZDNW9G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
PERFECT!
 

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I use a pair of these for food boxes, and they've held up great to getting chucked onto boats and beaches for years. 4 latches, foam gasket, pretty damn tough and keep things dry. I don't have Ziplock brand, but they're essentially identical.


https://www.target.com/p/ziploc-26-5-qt-weathershield-clear-storage-box/-/A-53099601


Edit - Amazon has them in a few sizes under 12" high https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00MWTJWXS/ref=twister_B07BZDNW9G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
PERFECT! My bay is 41 inches wide and 18 or so deep, 12 high. I could fit 2 of these in there and they would fit like a glove! Drop them in a drop bag and I am golden.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BMHV289/ref=crt_ewc_img_huc_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3FSJTXQSJEKQS
 

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I use a pair of these for food boxes, and they've held up great to getting chucked onto boats and beaches for years. 4 latches, foam gasket, pretty damn tough and keep things dry. I don't have Ziplock brand, but they're essentially identical.

https://www.target.com/p/ziploc-26-5-qt-weathershield-clear-storage-box/-/A-53099601
I've been using a latched plastic hanging file box like that for my car camping stuff. It's roughly 12" x 18" inside, and about 12" high. Has a foam gasket.


I wouldn't trust it in a flip, but I do trust it to leave out in the Lochsa rain overnight.
 

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I just came across this intriguing line of boxes on another forum.

https://www.roamadventureco.com/collections/all/products/the-rugged-case?variant=14929248256046

I don't know that they have the specific size the OP is after, but they look like they could have some white water applications. They are marketed toward overlanding, but I thought they were intriguing and worth posting here since I had never seen or heard of them before.
Very cool. That 95 would be perfect if my boat was wider!
 

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I just came across this intriguing line of boxes on another forum.

https://www.roamadventureco.com/collections/all/products/the-rugged-case?variant=14929248256046

I don't know that they have the specific size the OP is after, but they look like they could have some white water applications. They are marketed toward overlanding, but I thought they were intriguing and worth posting here since I had never seen or heard of them before.
Those are very cool... Looks basically like a good cooler but without the insulation.

And way cheaper than a dry box.
 
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