[MT4Runner]

up to day 19: oarsman's footwell, seats, cutting and fitting decks and hatches

 

[MNichols]

Wow, am jealous.



Beautiful work there 4runner. A question though, never having done a stitch and glue boat, but are you going to put 1xsomething on top (flush with the top on the inside of the hatch) of the bulkheads before decking it?



The Briggs Dory uses ribs, which require said wood to hold them apart, but it seems ply is a little flimsy laterally, especially in a flip type situation where gear would crash into the bulkhead, and possibly break the glue joint ?



Sorry, I are an engineer LOL! Enquiring minds and all.



Here's an image of the Briggs under construction to illustrate what I probably pooched in the explanation, at least I THINK I attached it..

 

[MT4Runner]

Not just the glue joint--there is fiberglass tape at all the ply-ply corners which functions the same as a wood batten (and has a similar glued surface area). If you think of a cedarstrip canoe, there are no ribs, fiberglass inside and out holds all the wood together so it's more of a stressed skin than a plank-on-frame construction type.



The gutters will all be wood-framed for shape and dimensional strength. Using western red cedar for the main frames (and lightweight/low density/stiffness/rot resistance) and jatoba for the hatch lips themselves (density/impact resistance).


I have, however, thought about gear crashing into the hatches. Seems like a lot of bulk/weight slamming into those southco latches and also the risk of gear jamming the latch so it won't open. I'm thinking of a few footman loops on the inside and some strategic straps to secure the load internally. 'Rig to flip'


You can take the rafter out of the raft, but...

 

[coloriverdude]

Lookin good! Progressing well man!

 

[MNichols]

I have, however, thought about gear crashing into the hatches. Seems like a lot of bulk/weight slamming into those southco latches and also the risk of gear jamming the latch so it won't open. I'm thinking of a few footman loops on the inside and some strategic straps to secure the load internally. 'Rig to flip'

Nice, hadn't thought about glassing it in place, but then I know little about stitch and glue construction. Doesn't seem as strong, to me anyway, from an adhesion aspect, as wood screwed to wood.



Good point on the southco latches, another thing I hadn't thought about, but I DID buy some footman's loops for the interior to keep things like propane bottles and heavier items from laying on the deck while the boat (hopefully never) is upside down. Here is the ONLY source I found for brass footman loops:

https://wcircle.com/inc/searchresults?s=footman&ss=footman&n=316579



Stainless and nickel plated ones are readily available, but look for Brass (sorry, am a purist in this regard) are almost impossible to locate, they are priced very reasonably in my opinion.



Again. gorgeous work, you should be very proud of your accomplishment, and I mean that !!

 

[MNichols]

Anyone interested in a dory? One on Craigslist that looks pretty sweet and is reasonably priced, oars, trailers. Doesn't appear to have the super rake that I'm used to seeing, but then boat designs are different from builder to builder.



https://westslope.craigslist.org/boa/d/dolores-grand-canyon-river-dory/6803175524.html


Come over to the dark side, we have Cookies

 

[MT4Runner]

Wish we had a dory subforum.

 

[Infidien]

Wish I had that paint job^ Nice!

 

[MNichols]

Wish we had a dory subforum.

I wish we had a Dory subforum too



Nice paint job there buddy!!!

 

[matt man]

Oh wow! That looks awesome!!

 

[MT4Runner]

Fairing

 

[MNichols]

Fairing

Beautiful....

 

[raymo]

Very very nice...

Fairing

Beautiful boat, I bet you can not wait to get her on the water? Nice skills.

 

[MT4Runner]

Flipped the boat once more to glass the underside of the deck hatch lips I added...glass doesn't like to hang upside down!
IMG_8002.JPG





Time for latches, gunnel bolts, and hinges.













Launching Sunday!

 

[MNichols]

Almost done!! Looks SWEET !!

You'll be rowing her before too much longer, it's all downhill from here

 

[MT4Runner]

Sunday launch is the plan, come hell or low water!
Overnight on the lower Flathead

 

[MNichols]

I pray for high water for you then

 

[Ron Rupert]

Looking Good

Nice looking build. You can always just slow it down when the water gets skinny

 

[MT4Runner]

High enough for me!

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?site_no=12372000

Nice looking build. You can always just slow it down when the water gets skinny

Thanks Ron! Yeah, it's deep enough, and not too fast. Planning on a 15-18 mile overnight. I plan to relax my butt off. It's been a busy summer and a busy build, and I'm not worried about finding whitewater this time of year, just moving water and a nice campsite.

I know I'll hit rocks eventually, just don't want to do it right away.

By the way, didn't realize you were on the Buzz. I've enjoyed seeing pics of your Oljeto on the Whitewater Dories group. The brown accents on your boat and oars look sharp.

 

[Ron Rupert]

Thanks

I have been on here for a while.
I do like my new colors on Oljeto. I have started adding some "Bottle Green" accents on my oars and hoping to add to my boat stripes this winter if I can get some shop time.