I have a bitchen pair of pogies from the ir website that are made of closed cell foam covered with drytop material (maybe pvc?)...they actually have latex gaskets at the wrist...loose ones, so you can still get your hand in and out (not very easily, though, I don't recommend for creakin). some water still gets in, but not very much and they are very toasty. trouble is, they don't make them anymore. I got them from the part of the website they used to have marked "R&D". I emailed them to see why they don't offer them and they said it's because they cost about $90 to make and they were only selling them for $45...they didn't think they were marketable at a higher price (and they're probably right). Anyway, if you wanted to email them and see if they have a pair laying around they might sell them to you.