Im a smaller guy so do you think these problems would still occur?I'm a bigger guy, and the Zen did not fit me well. I found it difficult to actively swim in, it rode up and was restrictive when paddling and rowing. For me, the greenjacket is a much better PFD and a better thought out piece of equipment.
Not sure...like someone said before, I think it is a function of fit and preference, which is going to be different for each body shape. I sold my Zen, and the guy that bought it really likes it. Try multiple on - last time I checked Alpine Quest had the Green, Zen and another rescue to choose from.Im a smaller guy so do you think these problems would still occur?
Thanks for the reviews! Def helps with my decision to buy my new rescue vest. I was leaning towards the Greenjacket and your review helped seal the deal compared to the others.It just so happens that we've written in depth reviews about all three of these PFDs on Blister Gear Review. I hope they help! Let me know if you have any specific questions. Links:
Green Jacket
NRS Zen
Descent
That was the same with me. I was torn between the zen and the green jacket but I have decided to go with the green jacket thanks to these reviews!Thanks for the reviews! Def helps with my decision to buy my new rescue vest. I was leaning towards the Greenjacket and your review helped seal the deal compared to the others.
My second choice is the Maximus Prime. I am 5'-9", 192lbs and have a Astral YTV in Large/XL. What do you like/dislike about Max Prime? Size?Definitely try before you buy if possible, as noted from others the preference can be very unique for any number of reasons. My son really likes his Green Jacket - fits him well (he's 6' and 120lbs). I didn't care for the fit on the Green, felt like it rode up higher than what I was used to with my Astral 300. I bought a Ronin last summer after trying it on in a shop and after using it for a day disliked it a lot. I bought an NRS Zen without trying it on and disliked it overall once I tried it on and checked it out in person. I tried on a Kokatat Maximus Prime and liked the fit/function. Bought one and used it for the first time this weekend and am really happy with the fit, function, extra float, etc. Finding the "right" rescue PFD is much harder than I ever thought it would be. We're spoiled to have so many good options these days.
Definitely try before you buy if possible, as noted from others the preference can be very unique for any number of reasons. My son really likes his Green Jacket - fits him well (he's 6' and 120lbs). I didn't care for the fit on the Green, felt like it rode up higher than what I was used to with my Astral 300. I bought a Ronin last summer after trying it on in a shop and after using it for a day disliked it a lot. I bought an NRS Zen without trying it on and disliked it overall once I tried it on and checked it out in person. I tried on a Kokatat Maximus Prime and liked the fit/function. Bought one and used it for the first time this weekend and am really happy with the fit, function, extra float, etc. Finding the "right" rescue PFD is much harder than I ever thought it would be. We're spoiled to have so many good options these days.
How are the pockets compared to GJ? I have tried one on once, and it was too small so did not really put too much focus on the Kokatat.Maximus Likes:
- Padded continuous shoulder straps
- Adjustments for shoulder straps are NOT on the shoulders (Zen, Ronin)
- Kokatat comes in XL/XXL, chest size 49-55 (NRS/Green fit to 51")
- 18 lbs of float - big difference vs. my old 300, 1lb12oz more than GJ (for the size XL/XXL)
- I can wear it low like my Astral 300 and still cinch it up tight on the sides and below my gut
- I like the shoulder adjustments better than my 300 - cinches down the front not sides. I can cinch the shoulders after I snug it on the sides and below my gut - real nice difference to keep it low.
- has an extra side adjustment vs the 300 - so I can really cinch up tight on the sides without pulling it up at the same time
- doesn't feel as bulky/donut like around my gut
- shoulder/arm sections are cut out nicely - similar to Ronin/A300
- can use as side entry (buckles, no zipper) or pull-over
- more back protection than the 300 lowrider, more float up the center front
- knife lash tab on upper right with fabric to cover it up - keep it from getting caught on raft frames and more
The jacket felt real big at first - definitely more float higher up the front and back 300 - though I quickly got used to it and liked that I could cinch it down snug against my large frame (6'3" - 250+ lbs) without making it ride up higher. I was also worried about swimming in it since it felt bulkier - tested that out with a few cliff jumps (only 15 feet into current)- and I really liked the way it stayed put (no ride up) and it certainly didn't get in the way or feel bulky. One jump I helped tow my 6 year old to the side thru the eddy line and the PFD never felt like it was in the way or riding up. Even the 300 would ride up at times no matter how tight I cinched it at the waist.
Disclaimer: No affiliation with Kokatat, as mentioned in a previous post I disliked the Ronin PFD (shoulder straps) immensely. I'm a recreational kayaker/rafter who mainly runs class III, with some IV mixed in now and again.
Unfortunately your PFD is no longer UL listed. It would also be rejected by Rangers where there is a PFD inspection at the put-in. YMMV.I have a Zen and I destroyed it to get the perfect fitting PFD for me. I did a little surgery. I made an incision through the first two layers and pulled out the floatation foam in the front. I then cut 1/3 of the foam out so the foam is a bit thinner. then put it back and patched it up. The pfd now fits me like a dream and still floats me nice and high. It's less bulky and wraps around my body much better. Its not like I'm saying cut up your pfd but if you just need a small tweak and skills to do so??
Unfortunately your PFD is no longer UL listed. It would also be rejected by Rangers where there is a PFD inspection at the put-in. YMMV.