What safety gear do you have on your person? Back up? Pictures please.

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pinemnky13

· #3 · Jun 18, 2014

Flip lines on both sides of the raft, zdrag attatched to the bow for easy access upside down or right side up, throw bag, whiskey first aid kit, those are attached to the boat. On me, 2 knifes, kayaker thowbag, flipline mage of a 6'long webbing with locking carabiners on the ends(helps as a teather for attaching a flipped boat as well as rerighting a flipped boat that does not have fliplines) whistle, 2 airline bottles of whiskey

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Kinley

Discussion Starter · #4 · Jun 18, 2014

duct tape said:
Do you think you could make even the SLIGHTEST effort at searching a little before posting this in not one, but two different threads?

Sorry if a little cranky after a long day at work...

Here are a few:

http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f44/z-drag-setup-49374.html

http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f42/z-drag-kit-46494.html

http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f15/how-many-of-you-carry-z-drag-kit-at-all-times-46934.html

http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f14/what-goes-in-a-pin-kit-24124-3.html

Google search: "item to be searched" site:mountainbuzz.com

Thanks for the reply. The information you SEARCHED was great information but failed to answer the two specific and different questions I asked about different setups, (kayak and raft). The reason I asked for pictures if possible is because that answers so many more questions about how people distribute the gear, where, and hopefully why. I'm trying to gain insight on the reasoning if others and compare and contrast it with my own.

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Kinley

Discussion Starter · #5 · Jun 18, 2014

There was one good picture in the thread you listed above that helped and gave me a great idea on where to put my gear on a raft. Thanks.

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gstone

· #6 · Jun 18, 2014

also consider taking a swift water rescue course

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pinemnky13

· #7 · Jun 18, 2014

Sorry, I've have no pictures but you can figure out what I'm talking about.
Don't worry about cranky buzzards....

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Kinley

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 18, 2014

gstone said:
also consider taking a swift water rescue course

Thanks and that's a great idea. I took my first SRT through Rescue 3 in 1998 in Alaska while working with Juneau Mountain rescue, and no joke just called today to try and see if someone in the area was teaching another class. My friends and I did some boat flipping and throw bag rescues in the river last Saturday to brush up, but It's always good to brush up officially.

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Kinley

Discussion Starter · #9 · Jun 18, 2014

pinemnky13 said:
Sorry, I've have no pictures but you can figure out what I'm talking about.
Don't worry about cranky buzzards....

Ya you're good. I figured it out and I'm not loosing sleep over attitude. Thanks for the reply!

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carvedog

· #10 · Jun 18, 2014

I actually have four throw bags on the raft. One at each oar tower and one at bow and stern. I am thinking access while upside down not that I need four bags. I also keep my 'crash' kit on the frame rail by the right oar tower which contains major first aid, layers of fleece and capilene, bearinged pulleys, 25 feet of tubing, prussiks, 400 feet of parachute cord and more biners.

On my PFD is a pocket in the back for a small throw bag. I think it is 60 feet of 3/8ths. Also the whistle and a locking binder. Sometimes I will carry webbing for a flip line in the spring.

And dammit where is yo search???

Good on you for practicing.I usually have everyone on my trips throw their bags just to make sure they come out when needed. A couple years ago late and behind I didn't throw my own. Sure enough a buddy flipped in the new Tappan drop. Being in perfect rescue position at the bottom on river right his boat came about 30 feet from me and he was on top looking for my bag. It came out about 26 feet before stopping. Felt bad. Still feel bad. Dammit.

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Kinley

Discussion Starter · #11 · Jun 18, 2014

O ya I throw each bag and do my "pre combat checks" each time I get on the river. The soldier OCD in me gets it every time. I like where you have placed your stuff. Gives me good ideas. Thank you for your post.

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carvedog

· #12 · Jun 18, 2014

Kinley said:
Thanks and that's a great idea. I took my first SRT through Rescue 3 in 1998 in Alaska while working with Juneau Mountain rescue, and no joke just called today to try and see if someone in the area was teaching another class. My friends and I did some boat flipping and throw bag rescues in the river last Saturday to brush up, but It's always good to brush up officially.

OARS is doing one in Jackson this weekend

Swiftwater Rescue Courses by SSI

Pretty sure it's SRT1.

Glad I could give you some ideas. I tend to overdo it sometimes with the gear but when the shit hits the fan you don't lack of a handy bag to be an issue. Once during another trips debacle ( two paddle boat flips and a cat maybe) I did have three throw bags deployed to get to folks. And that was a mess of rope in the boat after, but I am glad I had the bags handy for that. The p cord has been used a few times to get ropes across the river too. Once to retrieve a sweep boat pinned on a cliff. That was kind of fun and not too scary like seeing 15 people in the water all at once.

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mikesee

· #13 · Jun 18, 2014

carvedog said:
On my PFD is a pocket in the back for a small throw bag. I think it is 60 feet of 3/8ths. Also the whistle and a locking binder. Sometimes I will carry webbing for a flip line in the spring.

Which PFD is this?

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carvedog

· #14 · Jun 18, 2014

mikesee said:
Which PFD is this?

It's an older Lotus. It is detachable but came on the pfd and I have never had it off. The floatation is still soft and it still floats well but I will have to replace in a year or two.

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Kinley

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jun 19, 2014

carvedog said:
OARS is doing one in Jackson this weekend

Swiftwater Rescue Courses by SSI

Pretty sure it's SRT1.

Glad I could give you some ideas. I tend to overdo it sometimes with the gear but when the shit hits the fan you don't lack of a handy bag to be an issue. Once during another trips debacle ( two paddle boat flips and a cat maybe) I did have three throw bags deployed to get to folks. And that was a mess of rope in the boat after, but I am glad I had the bags handy for that. The p cord has been used a few times to get ropes across the river too. Once to retrieve a sweep boat pinned on a cliff. That was kind of fun and not too scary like seeing 15 people in the water all at once.

Very cool man. Ya it sucks when there's hordes of scared tourist in the water. But it happens. I'm all about more info. It's an internet thread. Info is what it's all about. The Jackson SRT1 is to soon for me as I'm teaching concealed permits this weekend or I'd seriously consider doing it again. Now I just need to get my boat sold and into a new one that a friend of mine is going to sell me, and then find a good frame and oars locally so I can hit Deso in a few weeks.

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