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This is off the subject of boating, but I feel that this is worth saying. Yesterday I went into my local Albertson's grocery store near Mesa State College. When I went to pay for my groceries, the cashier told me that the store was most likely going to be shut down as a result of competition with Walmart in the next few months. They're trying to sell the building to another grocery chain, but he said that it will most likely be an empty building. To add to this, those of us in Grand Junction are expecting two more Walmarts to invade the Clifton and Fruita areas. I feel that this is capitalism gone wrong. It's really sad that a good and reputable business such as Albertson's (next to a college) would go under to Walmart. What do you think about this issue? What could be done to stop Walmart, or should it be stopped?
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No offense, but I always think it is funny when people feel sorry for companies like City Market, Albertson's, etc. being outpriced by Wal-Mart. Sure, it's one thing if we are talking about local stores that are family operated by local people, but trust me, Albertsons, Safeway, etc. are not any less corporate than Wal-Mart, they just have trouble having lower prices. Usually when that is the case, the consumer wins. There are some exceptions though-we got a Super Wal Mart up here in the past couple of years, and I do shop there, and get lower prices, and can do one stop shopping. The problem is that the service isn't as good, and I wait in lines forever just to find out what the sign says in Spanish is that I'm in a "rapido" checkout line, etc. That makes me happier to go back to City Market, maybe I pay $3 more each time, but no lines, English speaking customer service, etc.
 

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I can see your point that all of these stores are large coorperations, but there is a difference between Walmart and the other stores. For example, Albertson's offers healthcare plans and union wages in contrast to Walmart's anti union stance. Walmart will actually shut down a store rather than accept a union. Also, because Walmart sell's practically every day to day item, they're in competition with every place from Discount tire to Albertson's. Perhaps this is the way we as Americans want our ecomomy to be driven, but I think we're on a path to a giant Walmart monoploy.
 

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Basically it comes down to this walmart sucks, but it is going to continue to grow because that's what people want. They want to be able to go to one store to get everything they need, its called convenience. Everyone rags on walmart and in no way am I trying to defend them, but they are only trying to cater to the laziness of people. Walmart strives because we as people let it! I do wish that there was something that could be done, however I think as long as they continue to out beat local grocers on prices they are going to out live.
 

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I'm not racist, I just don't speak or read Spanish well. It is difficult to get good customer service if there is a language barrier between you and the signage and the staff. Sorry if that makes me a racist, or hurts your feelings.
 

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What about the millions of poor folks that shop at Walmart that save $1.20 on a tube of tooth paste over Albertson's or City Market's price and can now afford a loaf of bread or a dozen eggs.

And employee benefits are market driven. If your not getting benefits, get better skills. A fair amount of employees that work at WalMart are lucky to have jobs at all, let alone benefits.
 

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While I see your point that people without skills shouldn`t have a better wage I ask you to look at the marjority of people that are forced to work at Walmart. Most of which have had no choice but to work there because their previous employeer was put out of buisness.

To all of those interested in the anti-Walmart movement I suggest this link:

http://walmartwatch.com/
 

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albertson's is reportedly being sold to another grocer....

as a result, they are closing a bunch of stores. while their sale and consequent stores is related to competition with wal-mart, it's not the direct reason for their stores closing, at least to my knowledge.

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I don't understand the rage and hate that is leveled at Walmart. They are the perfect institution for all you hippy liberals out there. They provide jobs for all those "underprivledged" citizens that liberals claim to want to help. They even provide jobs for all those "underprivledged" minorities and foreign citizens that liberals claim to want to help. They provide convenience and low prices to all those "underprivledged" citizens that liberals claim to want to help. Lets not forget that one stop shopping cuts down on driving time for all lazy Americans, which cuts down on oil consumtion, which all liberals claim to want to cut down on. Not to mention that whenever, and wherever a Walmart is opened, it provides windfall tax revenues, something that we all know liberals love. And these tax revenues can be used to help all the "underprivledged" citizens that liberals claim to want to help. Lets look at a case in point. The Walmart in Avon, CO is a perfect case to examine. It has provided all of the benefits to the community that have previously been discussed in my diatribe. Yes, it may put some mom and pop businesses out of business. But the result is a net benefit for the community. The mostly broke community that provide services for a few very well to do second home owners and tourists can fulfill their day to day needs without driving all over town, and burning up those nasty fossil fuels, at lower prices. This means that they have more money to spend at other places in town, including mom and pop businesses, and providing the government with more sales tax revenue. The Walmart provides more jobs than previously existed in the valley, including jobs to minorities, along with providing these people with benefits that they could not otherwise obtain at mom and pop businesses. Nuf said.
And by the way. This site sucks. Can we talk about other things like,...oh I don't know,........boating?;
 

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If this site sucks then take your conservative bullshit elsewhere. If you only want to talk about boating, that's cool...then don't chime in on an off topic thread.

...you sound like medman. Call me Matlock, but I aint fooled by your new name. Then again, all you greedy bastards sound the same. Whoever you are, piss off.
 

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That's the kind of response I would expect from a lib. All emotion, no fact. You can't even refute the knowledge that I am laying down for you. So you simply tell me to piss off, AND hurt my feelings with you're cold words. And I thought liberals were supposed to be such caring people. And by the way, Matlock, you need to work on you're investigative skills, because you are way off.
 

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Laying down knowlege? Ninja, please. You know who walmart is good for? The Waltons. And the shareholders. And just like all big business, some consumers may benefit incidentally but lets not pretend the objective is make lives easier or help anyone out. We don't even have the coldwar veil of needing to "preserve our way or life" by defeating the communists anymore. Capitalism is exposed for what it is...a game with players who are out for blood...for money...and for nothing else. They don't give a shit who is crushed in the process.

Walmart exploits the people that work there. These folks sadly have no other prospect (fast food industry notwithstanding) and the execs know that...they hire a cheep labor force..pay them shit and treat them like shit. And you and every other "conservative" I've ever had the misfortune to speak with could care less about the plight of the underpriveledged (putting that word in quotes so many times was dick) because a)you've never been there and therefore b) you must be somehow superior...immune from these kind of problems. That's if you even "lower" yourself enough to put on their shoes and realize the kind of problems they have. The have nots have not for a reason and whatever that reason is you're above it. It's that sense of entitlement that oozes from every word you jackasses spout that burns my ass and puts fire in every liberal's belly. And no amount of dialogue can convince any of you that Ayn Rand is full of shit and that greed is BAD. So I tell you to piss off because it's easier than wasting my breath.
 

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BastrdSonOfElvis why is that you assume those people working in these stores are under such plight that they can't take care of themselves. They have jobs. Some people that work at WALMART make plenty of money and started from the ground up. Thay also have the ability to quit and work somewhere else. They don't need some liberal hippy sticking it to the man for them. The may not have a sweet job by trustfund standards but they're not all stupid.
 

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Rushis Right? Hilarious. Another medman pseudonym.

Certainly never said they were stupid...that's your word. And the vast majority of those who work at walmart would be hardpressed to find another job, especially after all the other retailers go under.

A trustafarian's job is to...have no job at all.

I'm no hippy. No hippies in the military.

And Rush Limbaugh is not only wrong, he's fat, arrogant, annoying, all-around unpleasant and if memory serves a bigger drug addict than lots of hippies I know.

One last thing...I'm no democrat but the way I see it, there are only two reasons to be republican: greed and stupidity. I'm not sure which is worse.

Elvis has left the building, yall, your rhetoric is tired and I'm tired of reading it.
 

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the thing that makes me sick about Walmart is the fact that they are the largest retailer in the nation (probably the world) and yet, in some states, they offer training classes to their employees on how to collect welfare. I mean come on, the largest retailer and they expect the tax-payer to help pay the way for some of their employees. Make me want to vomit. BSOE you are a pretty funny dude
 
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