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Anyone know where I can find info on doing the Upper Animas train dropping/picking up overnight gear thing? And who might do a takeout/putin shuttle drive in the area? And where to leave a dog overnight? Heading to CO mid May and hoping to do the Upper A if it's in. Will only have one car and a dog and kind of want to overnight it. Without gear in boats of course. Thanks!
 

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Don't know about where to leave a dog, but I would say that the train is way more trouble than its worth. The Upper A does not have any portaging (especially at the levels we will see this year). Just stuff your gear in the back of your boat, and you won't have to worry about the train schedule, and you can camp anywhere you want.
 

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If you take the train you don't need a shuttle - train will take you to the put in, will let you drop off stuff halfway, and you can catch the train above rockwood or in the town of rockwood and take the train back to your car in Durango.

Just call the train, and tell them what you want to do, and they should be able to help you. There are a number of trains each day but not all of them stop at all the stops so you have to schedule your trip to make sure that you are on the right train out and back.

As Jmack said the train isn't necessary, but we rolled down to Durango once with only one car and the train is an easy (but expensive) way to make the run without having to set shuttle. Having a bunch of cold beer waiting in the river at camp was nice too.
 

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I did it 3 times back in the early 90's, using the train every time. Not sure if or how rates have changed, but the freight was cheap IF you were riding the train up. We took big tents, STEAKS, potatoes, beer, whiskey, chairs... we got treated like rock stars on the open cars on the train, scouting on the way up. If you're in to the novelty of it, I don't think there is any more FUN way to do an awesome, decadent, RAFTLESS overnighter on the Animas. We ran the R.Box and just hiked out each time, no big deal. Things may have changed since then, but the railroad was way cool with us using their services, and telling us the best time to hike out on the tracks.
 

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Things have changed Wyo. The train will often tell private boaters that they are booked up with commercial outfitters and cannot accommodate your private trip. They will not tell you the best times to hike out on the tracks instead they will call the sheriff. Now that said there are some great people that work for the train but you have to be super nice, patient and persistent. If you can run your trip without the train you will be better off as jmack points out. If not just plan way ahead and pay well in advance for your freight.
 

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Wow, that is sad to hear. I haven't tried to go back and do it again since way back when. It seemed like they were really trying to work with both private kayakers and the commercial rafting trips. It was win/win/win for everyone involved. Too bad; I really enjoyed those decadent "self support" Animas runs.
 

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what kind of dog? we live between ridgway and telluride and are kayakers/rafters with 2 labs we could possibly help with your dog and maybe shuttle logistics ...your flows should be ok not epic 970 729 0051
 

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(what kind of dog? we live between ridgway and telluride and are kayakers/rafters with 2 labs we could possibly help with your dog and maybe shuttle logistics ...your flows should be ok not epic 970 729 0051 )

He is a bull mastiff but only attacks small children and other dogs. Other than that he is a sweet heart.
 

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Don't know about where to leave a dog, but I would say that the train is way more trouble than its worth. The Upper A does not have any portaging (especially at the levels we will see this year). Just stuff your gear in the back of your boat, and you won't have to worry about the train schedule, and you can camp anywhere you want.
Please do not camp at any of the established commercial campspots downstream of the bridge. If you're camping around the bridge, take out river right at the bridge and camping right there. There's an old train car, flat ground and fire rings right there.

As for the train, I agree with JMack. Pack your gear in the back of your boat, self-support, and then run Rockwood at the end. The hike up and out is no worries and drops you at your rig.
 

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Please do not camp at any of the established commercial campspots downstream of the bridge. If you're camping around the bridge, take out river right at the bridge and camping right there. There's an old train car, flat ground and fire rings right there.

As for the train, I agree with JMack. Pack your gear in the back of your boat, self-support, and then run Rockwood at the end. The hike up and out is no worries and drops you at your rig.
Oh yeah- by anywhere you want, I meant anywhere that is not an established campsite for commercial rafting. Except for 4CRS, those guys are beaters and will never know the difference.
 
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