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There's an article in the Daily Camera (Boulder's Charly Heavenrich returns from Grand Canyon with 'Unimagined Gifts' - Boulder Daily Camera) that includes this gem concerning one man's trip into the GC: "I had a very clear sensation of non-physical arms wrapping around me, as if to say, 'Welcome home, brother,'" Heavenrich said Wednesday. "The deeper I got into the canyon, the deeper it got into me."

I've been there 3 times, and mercifully never got choked by this sort of horsecrap pretentiousness. I don't know where to begin with this one, but I thought it might be a fun dialogue starter on the Buzz, especially with the lack of water around here...
 

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Have you done the big ditch?

Not quite the same as my experience, but there is some mystical shit going on in there.
 

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Not into the metaphysical mysticism at all...but I love the Grand for what it is. It is an amazing place for sure, I just am not one of those people who sees and hears things that aren't there:)
 

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No doubt there is something of the mystical/mythical going on down there--an amazing spot. You wake up every morning in awe, the first hours on river in the same state... Maybe there's something of the cornball here. And I don't know where to begin with, "The deeper I got into the canyon, the deeper it got into me." Maybe I'm used to Ed Abbey. One man's prose as another man's club to the skull, etc. :shock:
 

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There is lots of energy down there, if you are willing and able to experience it. Powerful, very powerful. Personally I think it has a lot to do with removing yourself from daily life, completely losing connection with a normal schedule and experiencing nothing non-natural (excluding our gear of course, but no buildings, lawns, signs, etc). I found Phantom shockingly offensive to my senses, and don't really want to stop there next time I go. I'd love to just get water and float by, but I doubt that will happen.
 

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The guy's a writer. Have you heard of a metaphor? He has to make it sound dramatic so that customers will drop a few grand to see The Grand.

On a side note, I'm kind of sick of people trying to explain the deep sensations they experience through their outdoor activities. Have you ever listened to "The Dirtbag Diaries" podcast? There's a couple good stories in there if you can wade through the dribble about the transformative experiences that occur when such and such's hand touches a granite rock wall. You ditched your job to monkey up a rock wall, get over it.
Must be the end of kayak season, everybody's bitching - including myself.
 

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The Grand Canyon seems to attract news articles that are hardly news.

The Durango Herald 10/03/2011 | Imig takes Grand Canyon raft spill

Concussions can be serious, but would you call for a helicopter for it? Seems a bit much and expensive when you are just about done anyway. And why are we hearing about it in the newspaper? Did these guides not know where the hole was?
I saw this the other day, too, Ryan and thought- this isn't the person I want on the city council. It wasn't her "time?" Right.

Sounds like the guides got too far right at the top of Lava. And- they ran "several" Class 10 rapids before Lava? I thought Crystal was the only other one actually classified a "10."
 

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"I've been there 3 times, and mercifully never got choked by this sort of horsecrap pretentiousness."

Charly has been guiding in GC since 1978 and has logged over 100 trips. Hmm.....
100 X 14 (avg days) = 1400 /365 = 3.8 years. That is a lot of time in that place. Enough time in fact that the place becomes a part of you. Yes, he is a writer that is using words to spark imaginations, but qualified to speak on the subject for sure! Speak on Charly!
 

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The Grand Canyon seems to attract news articles that are hardly news.

The Durango Herald 10/03/2011 | Imig takes Grand Canyon raft spill

Concussions can be serious, but would you call for a helicopter for it? Seems a bit much and expensive when you are just about done anyway. And why are we hearing about it in the newspaper? Did these guides not know where the hole was?
If someone has head trauma and is vomiting that is an immediate evacuation if at all possible in my book. Once the brain starts swelling it can go badly in a very quick and fatal way.

The writer is pretty messed up though with the timeline. Boat flips, gourmet food is not eaten, later in the evening she gets sick, they call for evacuation and the heli is there at 5:30 ...... all on Wednesday. I hate bad writers.

I don't know about arms wrapping around, but I feel at Home on the river as I do few places on earth. Carry on.
 

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The rapid ratings in The Canyon are pretty ridiculous (for the most part). Lava on the left is a class 2 move with class 5 consequences, and on the right it is a crap shoot pretty much always. BTW, the view from below the Ledge Hole is absolutely stunning! Visited it on my first trip!
 

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the rating system on the grand was out of date in the 70s...even the park service doesnt use that scale anymore..and if they did..so lava is class 10?....upper ends of river navigation..i give it a class IV- at best. SO either way...i laugh at ignorance...they probably looked at some out of date guide book and guess what....there are actualy rafts designed to bail water on its own....ya gotta be puttin me on...really?...........
 

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the rating system on the grand was out of date in the 70s...even the park service doesnt use that scale anymore..and if they did..so lava is class 10?...
From what I understand, the Grand Canyon 1 - 10 rating system is still used by a lot of GC guides and in some guidebooks. The Lindemann guide uses it; I can't remember if Martin and Whitis use it - hopefully they use the international rating keep the GC rating secondary.

Sometimes I think the obstinacy of a lot of GC folks to adopt the international whitewater rating system is so they can have an inside lingo that throws everyone off while they're in the know. And it sounds better when you tell the custies "...here comes Badger - its a Class 5 at this level!"

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