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Hey everyone. I know that winter is barely upon us, but I can't help it. I'm starting to plan for next year's river season. Already have our pre-season Main Salmon and post-season Middle Fork permits. Now I'm thinking about spring. I'd like info from folks who have done a spring Deso trip. Late April or anytime in May. What was your water flow? Weather experience? Also would like info from folks who did Deso late this past summer on what Joe Hutch was like at low water. We did it in June at 12,000 cfs and ran the right hand side with no problem to avoid the big haystack waves on the left.
Thanks for any input / info/ advice you can give. Love Deso / HATE the bugs.
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You definitely want to talk to the rangers about the ice. It completely clogs the river at times making it impassable. How much ice and how long it sticks around varies from year to year. I've heard horror stories about folks having to hike out and leave their boats. Then, their forced to wait until the ice dams break.
 

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The ice is more of a problem in March. Late April / May is a great time to be out there. Plenty of water but not so high that it washes out the rapids or covers the beaches. Weather is a crap shoot - could be snow or could be beautiful.
 

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We launched April 3 this year and ran it at 2500. The 16' heavy raft and the little dory did fine, though the dory needed some repair after Joe Hutch! The rapid was still young and had never seen more that 4,000, so much of the rocky runout might be gone now, or covered with water by mid to late April. We got snowed on once, took a layover, and had pretty good weather the rest of the way. There was one really, really windy day that we chose to layover too.

Joe Hutch was sweet. Scout it from the right. We both ran the meat line right down the middle and were fine. The dory got a small hole late in the rapid after the hard part. I have to say we were very disappointed on our layover day to watch everyone run it way left. It's kind of a sneak/skirt.

I'd recommend a layover here. You can watch boats run the rapid from camp, and the hike up the flash flood wash is nothing short of amazing to see. Giant boulders moved by water. I love it!

Have fun!
 

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Did you have any mosquito trouble in late May? I've always heard that they come out after the water level peaks, and then starts dropping, exposing their breeding areas. No bugs is the main reason I want to do a May trip.
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I did it at the end of May this year, caught the high flow around 19,000. Weather was perfect, we had a little rain storm buzz through. We took Joe Hatch on the left with out much problem.
 

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We launched April 3 this year and ran it at 2500. The 16' heavy raft and the little dory did fine, though the dory needed some repair after Joe Hutch! The rapid was still young and had never seen more that 4,000, so much of the rocky runout might be gone now, or covered with water by mid to late April. We got snowed on once, took a layover, and had pretty good weather the rest of the way. There was one really, really windy day that we chose to layover too.

Joe Hutch was sweet. Scout it from the right. We both ran the meat line right down the middle and were fine. The dory got a small hole late in the rapid after the hard part. I have to say we were very disappointed on our layover day to watch everyone run it way left. It's kind of a sneak/skirt.

I'd recommend a layover here. You can watch boats run the rapid from camp, and the hike up the flash flood wash is nothing short of amazing to see. Giant boulders moved by water. I love it!

Have fun!
Why do say it was disappointing to watch everyone run way left? They all missed the best part of the rapid?
 
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