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Actions and words incited violence. This has been brewing for five long years. Most importantly is Trump's inability to accept defeat in the 2020 presidential election. For crying for five years that the voting has been rigged. That he deserves more. That he loves domestic terrorists. Not condemning white supremacy. "Mexicans are rapists." Spinning Q conspiracy theories. On and on. You know the straw and the camels back.
If you cannot see it, you do not want to.
 

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Please do quote the words that "incited an insurrection that killed five people and was a baldfaced attemp to overthrow our government" (sic).
Chop Chop. I think it was Mark Twain who said "Don't negotiate with crazy people or argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and win by experience" Obviously your version of reality differs from mine, I defer to your experience.
 

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Actions and words incited violence. This has been brewing for five long years. Most importantly is Trump's inability to accept defeat in the 2020 presidential election. For crying for five years that the voting has been rigged. That he deserves more. That he loves domestic terrorists. Not condemning white supremacy. "Mexicans are rapists." Spinning Q conspiracy theories. On and on. You know the straw and the camels back.
If you cannot see it, you do not want to.
So, you don't have a quote and you post this bologna. Everything you said here is a lie.

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Chop Chop. I think it was Mark Twain who said "Don't negotiate with crazy people or argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and win by experience" Obviously your version of reality differs from mine, I defer to your experience.
Cute little saying and yeah, I'm well read on Mark Twain. The quote is, "Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and will beat you with experience." By that I'm assuming my post stumped you and you're digressing.

Since we're doing MT, here's a good one for you: “Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to reform (or pause and reflect).”
 

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So, you don't have a quote and you post this bologna. Everything you said here is a lie.

Edited to sort the correct response to the right attacker.
Jesus, angry man. Please get help. Obviously, the world is not turning out how you hoped. I know how you feel. 2016. I will hand it yo you that you know how to spell bologna.

Biden won the election. If you have a problem with the counting of votes, I suggest you talk to the Clerk and Recorder and see how they secured the election in your district. Start there. Live 2020 election results: Presidency, Senate and House And sorry, not sorry, this is how we run elections in the USA.

June 16, 2015 "When Mexico sends it people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." In case this goes over your head, this quote is considered incendiary by inflaming bigotry to anyone coming from south of the border.

August 15, 2017 Charlottesville TRUMP: "Excuse me, excuse me. (inaudible) themselves (inaudible) and you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides." Or you are ok with domestic terrorism? Or are you a neo-nazi and consider yourself a fine person?

January 6, 2021. Trump is more of a mob boss than a President. And he rallied the mob without completely incriminating himself. But he did not march with the MAGA rioters. Did Trump Tell Supporters to Storm US Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021? But he continued to lie that the election was stolen, incendiary. You have been to a Trump rally? It is not like there is much talk of policy. It is just listening to an old man rant his greatest hits. Build that wall.

Misogynist asshole. 1991 "You know, it really doesn’t matter what they write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass. But she’s got to be young and beautiful." He has insulted numerous women. He doesn't like what they say/write so he attacks their looks. Such a gent! I will quote if you prefer but the women include: Megyn Kelly, Gail Collins, Arianna Huffington, Sarah Jessica Parker, Bette Midler, Rosie O'Donnell, Heidi Cruz, Katy Tur, Elizabeth Warren, Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and on and on. This is not just locker talk, but this is the President bashing women because they are women. This creates a welcome mat for other men, perhaps such as you, to treat women as if they are less than.

More? COVID? Sorry he screwed the pooch with that one. If he had been able to handle the pandemic, he would have won reelection. But he could not and did not.

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Biden did not win the election, period.
June 16, 2015 - Everything in that statement was true. MS13, drugs, coyotes involved in human trafficking.
August 15, 2017 - Charlottesville was a protest and although it was organized by racists on both sides, there were people on both sides that are not racists and generally good people. I see nothing wrong with what he said and contrary to your and GeoRong's belief, not everyone that disagrees with you is a Nazi.
All of those women you listed deserved everything he said about them. They chose to go to word war with him and then got their feelings hurt. It had nothing to do with 'because they are women'. Screw them!
If the plandemic had been handled like Obama and Biden handled H1N1, we would have had 2 million deaths by now. Biden called Trump xenophobic for his first travel ban. Please address that.
Sorry, but everything you posted is a matter of opinion. You hate everything conservative and believe everything that agrees with your hate.
And last but not least, "Jesus, angry man". Looks like you are much more the angry man than I am. I am pissed about a stolen election and rightfully so. You just seem pissed, much like GeoRong.
 

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Chop Chop. I think it was Mark Twain who said "Don't negotiate with crazy people or argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and win by experience" Obviously your version of reality differs from mine, I defer to your experience.
I want to thank you for the Mark Twain quote. It caused me to spend a couple of hours last night reading many of MT's thousands of quotes. I highly recommend it as time well spent laughing my ass off.
 

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Biden did not win the election, period.
June 16, 2015 - Everything in that statement was true. MS13, drugs, coyotes involved in human trafficking.
August 15, 2017 - Charlottesville was a protest and although it was organized by racists on both sides, there were people on both sides that are not racists and generally good people. I see nothing wrong with what he said and contrary to your and GeoRong's belief, not everyone that disagrees with you is a Nazi.
All of those women you listed deserved everything he said about them. They chose to go to word war with him and then got their feelings hurt. It had nothing to do with 'because they are women'. Screw them!
If the plandemic had been handled like Obama and Biden handled H1N1, we would have had 2 million deaths by now. Biden called Trump xenophobic for his first travel ban. Please address that.
Sorry, but everything you posted is a matter of opinion. You hate everything conservative and believe everything that agrees with your hate.
And last but not least, "Jesus, angry man". Looks like you are much more the angry man than I am. I am pissed about a stolen election and rightfully so. You just seem pissed, much like GeoRong.
Never satisfied, Mr angry man. You wanted quotes, I gave them.
You are obviously bitter about your declining station in life. You are threatened by the superior intellect around you. You are afraid of the truth about yourself. You are afraid someone will take something away from you, like a gun or your raft trailer. Who is the snowflake?
Man up, you lost. Did you call your election official? No. Punk ass, misogynist pig. They deserved it? Just like all of the women you hate? Rape much? Incel in your free time?
I hate misogynists. I hate dumb, ignorant people who can't handle defeat. I hate people who would prefer to believe a conspiracy theory because the the way things rolled this time make them feel inferior. You do not get to choose the truth.
There is nothing wrong with conservatism. I prefer the middle. What you represent is hate, ignorance and bigotry.
Shoo, damn MAGAt.
 

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Never satisfied, Mr angry man. You wanted quotes, I gave them.
You are obviously bitter about your declining station in life. You are threatened by the superior intellect around you. You are afraid of the truth about yourself. You are afraid someone will take something away from you, like a gun or your raft trailer. Who is the snowflake?
Man up, you lost. Did you call your election official? No. Punk ass, misogynist pig. They deserved it? Just like all of the women you hate? Rape much? Incel in your free time?
I hate misogynists. I hate dumb, ignorant people who can't handle defeat. I hate people who would prefer to believe a conspiracy theory because the the way things rolled this time make them feel inferior. You do not get to choose the truth.
There is nothing wrong with conservatism. I prefer the middle. What you represent is hate, ignorance and bigotry.
Shoo, damn MAGAt.
You call me 'Mr Angry Man' and then spew your rhetoric and hate, making false accusations, for what purpose other than to one up me. Well good for you!
 

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It feels like we are experiencing a sci fi horror of parallel universes. Chop chop believes everything he says. Trump believes everything he says. They repeat alternate truths often enough that an alternate universe exists. We don't even have a common set of truths at this time. Chop chop has convinced me, we can't compare realities because we are arguing our perspectives/opinions of alternate truths.

One common truth does exit, Joe Biden will sit as president. A majority of one party will exist in both houses of Congress. Election administrators, judges and legislators at all levels and all persuasions agree except for a quickly decreasing minority. That minority will continue to decease as the more rational republicans realize that they want to distance themselves from the last four years, especially the last two plus months.

Especially because of the last two months, the adherents to one reality will be vilified in the history books just like nazi Germany. Unfortunately, a reality that glorifies nazi Germany still exists and will never go away. Unfortunately, the time and end of trump's presidency will continue to haunt our country.
 

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Poland keeps looking better everyday. Dzięki Bogu!
Back in 2016 I had a temporary resident/work permit status for Canada in good standing. With some effort I could have converted to permanent resident/citizen. I was tempted when trump was elected.

I did not enjoy the last four years. I was far beyond angry but mature enough to suck it up. I suggest you stay and endure and precipitate in free and fair elections every two years for a reason I will explain in the last paragraph.

However, precipitation in democracy requires the understanding that there are winners and losers. I know that you will say that trump was harassed. That is the process/messiness of democracy. Impeachment, right or wrong is a matter of opinion and representatives voting. But it is a process written into our constitution. I know you are likely to mention the racial justice riots of last year. I don't want to talk about racial justice now. But at no time was there an attempt to overthrow by violence the government of the United States. So please recognize, when you lose you cannot begin a civil war.

If you cannot accept the depth of certainty of election integrity in the United States then Poland may be best suited to you. It is governed by far right nationalist at this time so elections are certain to please for awhile. However, where will you move when Poland swings left?

But recognize, Canada wanted my consulting skills. Poland is unlikely to welcome you to become a citizen, persona non grata. Hence, you will likely live there as a non-polish speaking, non-voting, unwelcome, illegal alien. That would be ironic. Just saying.
 

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I think it goes deeper than different perspectives. For the most part, these are non-conforming outlaws. They understand reality perfectly well, but they don't agree with it. They are deeply cynical to a pathological state and refuse to accept that anyone could possibly have altruistic beliefs. Their patriotism is a lie, they are highly egotistical and care only about themselves. Trump is definitely a member and a leader of these lost souls.
 

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Never at any point are politic talks allowed on river trips!!!
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I seriously thot that this would be the last place where this shit would be.

Political opinions are like assholes, every bodies got one, nobody cares to hear about yours, and f you bring it up all you’re going to hear is a lot of shit talking.
The list of people I would never invite on a river trip is growing.
 

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Never at any point are politic talks allowed on river trips!!!
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I seriously thot that this would be the last place where this shit would be.

Political opinions are like assholes, every bodies got one, nobody cares to hear about yours, and f you bring it up all you’re going to hear is a lot of shit talking.
The list of people I would never invite on a river trip is growing.
Fortunately Ron I’m calling out you and the rest of the Socialists on this site. What a waste of a good platform. Canada sure missed when you stayed down here. Calling on moderators to permanently ban someone just screams I wear pull-ups and still wet the bed. Where’s my daddy.
 

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Well, you can tell it's winter on the Buzz. Hopefully this will distract folks enough they'll forget to put in for permits and increase the odds in my favor!

And everyone please keep things civil.
 
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