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Cool old machine! After making some mesh tote bags recently I was wishing I had a cylinder arm machine for the top edge webbing.

I did end up buying a swing away binder from Sailrite (likely made by Suisei) and holy shit what a time saver, I can't believe I did so much binding by hand...binding by hand suuuuucks.

So many quesions...
  • Is the "cylinder" by the thumb screw some sort of binding routing thingy?
  • Binding attachments are readily available?
  • Is the machine in time?
They work like this when mounted...


Notice how the binder arm moves with the walking foot too, so everything stays lined up. That is the main difference between this kind of machine and just putting a binding attachment on a flat bed machine. That Sailrite attachment does look like a nice upgrade though. A buddy picked up a couple of binders while he was in Vietnam and I played with them a bit on my Juki and it defintely made it a lot easier.

Turning by hand...everything seems to be timed allright but I haven't had time to do much more then bring it inside.

Shaft went over it already but clutch motors were/are pretty standard for industrial machines and are sometimes single phase and sometimes 3phase...both wtih varying voltages depending on their use and needs. A lot of the new machines have gone to Servo motors now though. As Shaft said, clutch motors are very finicky and hard to control especially a novice sewer. Its crazy how good the sewers in most industrial/commercial settings are at it...but for me its almost unusable. Think of it as super stiff old truck clutch when you didn't know how drive a manual. It goes from zero to out of control in the matter of a quarter inch or less of pedal input.

A servo motor basically solves the control problem by just having a potentiometer attached to the pedal that then controls a servo motor. It has a control box that allows you to adjust what RPM the motor spins for a given pedal input as well (Just a dial or buttons up or down...very simple). I put one on my Juki and I can now just chug along as slow as I want. The slowest setting is actually annoyingly slow for most things but if you are doing work trying to keep multiple layers lined up its REALLY nice to have. I put a smaller pully on that one too, so higher torque and slower speeds and can go even slower.

Since this machine came with a 3-phase motor its kind of a no brainer. I'm sure a VFD that varies the speed would help... but I think the VFD would be more expensive then the Servo motor setup ($140 for the whole thing) and you'd still have to deal with the clutch. I have the single phase120v motor from my Juki I could put on it...but just don't wanna deal with a clutch.

I'm actually thinking about building a belt sander/grinder and I think these clutch motors might be amazing for that since you'd basically design the belt sander to run at full speed/full clutch engagement so you'd just stomp on it to get the sanding belt spinning but could also use it to attenuate the belt speed.
 

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haha....ironic that I'm posting like 6 months apart about similar stuff....

So I have a Pfaff 335 Cylinder Machine and a Juki-562 machine.... both having binding attachments but I'm debating between which machine to get an attachment for. The Juki one is swing away so you can still use it for normal work. Its not the ideal binder but will probably be sufficient. I'll likely have to drill and tap holes to mount it though, but not a huge deal. There are a few super cheap and flimsy looking options on Amazon and Ebay, but Sailrite makes a nicer one that I think I could get to work better. Might be able to just get a new bobbin cover plate and mount a more basic binding attachment to that for easy swapping.

The Pfaff is often used as a dedicated binding machine and the binding attachment for seems like its intended to be semi permanent since it comes with a needle plate, feed dog and presser foot made just for the attachment. I'm guessing after the first few times I could probably swap the parts between the standard sewing setup and the binding setup in about 10 minutes...but when you are doing projects that can feel like an eternity. It seems like a better machine for binding use but I do want to use it for sewing bags and such that would be harder to use the Juki for.

So I guess I'm just curious what you guys with these attachments think.

Pfaff Attachement: https://www.amazon.com/KUNPENG-BGB-335-Complete-Binding-Attaching/dp/B07BSB7FY9?th=1


Juki Attachment: Sailrite® 1-1/4" Swing-Away Binder and Cheap Ebay Attachment


Sort of tempted to make one like this myself too...
 

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As mentioned previously, I have the Sailrite binder, works well and easy to mount using the threaded holes in the flatbed of my Consew machine.

Isn't the Juki bobbin holder located to the right and underneath the walking foot? If so, you will probably have to remove the Sailrite binder to change the bobbin...
 

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Its just to the right of the feed dogs. You have to remove the cover to get a the bobbin anyways....but yes the binder would have to come off, with the plate, if I mounted it that way.

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I'd get a new plate, drill the mounting holes, countersink underneath and use flathead screws from underneath so it doesn't mess with the mechanisms under the plate.

I do like that big long arm swing away one that completely swings out of the way. Sailrite might be a great way to go too. Too many options.
 

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Made a bow bag for my Mini Max last month. The bag is 23"x24"x11" and has a little pocket at the front for a gallon water jug to help keep weight forward when doing higher water day runs on the Animas. The photos in my kitchen are before I finished sewing up the protective boarder webbing.
 

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Made a bow bag for my Mini Max last month. The bag is 23"x24"x11" and has a little pocket at the front for a gallon water jug to help keep weight forward when doing higher water day runs on the Animas. The photos in my kitchen are before I finished sewing up the protective boarder webbing.
That's really cool, you'll get a ton of use out of it. I built a thwart bag ~24" x 8"w x 12"t about 3 years ago, it turned into my "use for everything" bag...it also fits next to my raft footwell or sling it under my knees in my drift boat as a Captain's bag
 

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@MT4Runner Thanks! Last summer I spent a lot of time trying to strap extra stuff to the thwarts and it just got kind of cluttered and unorganized. I've got some scrap from my first attempt at the bow bag so I think I'll try and make a thwart bag out of it that could transfer between the mini max and the new 14xt I just picked up.
 

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Only thing I'd change on mine is to sew a small carry handle on it. I also use it for a strap/misc bag when I'm not on the water. It usually contains some extra straps, everones' water bottles, a K-pump, a few sodas and whatever random stuff would end up down on the floor.
 
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