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Hey paddlers,
I'm in the market for a small boat that I would paddle mostly on the Poudre River. I'd like to use it to paddle R2--4, maybe 5. Because I am a raft guide I have the opportunity to buy a new hyside mini max for around $1800. Which is a damn good deal. But I often see 12 foot Rocky Mountain Rafts boats for sale around 1500. Money is of course tight and I'd like to save a few hundred bucks. I also like the idea of having the 12 foot boat because it seems easier to put an extra paddler or two in there. (But I also have access to a 14 foot Otter). On the other hand, I like the portability and the value of my Mini Max deal.

Thoughts on which is the better deal for me?
 

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mini max are sweet little boats and I paddle it r5 all the time... I don't have much experience with RMR besides seeing them on the water... I know they are a great deal havier... and you cant really argue with the reputation and durability of high sides...

I occasionally wish I had a slightly larger boat ( I have a mini max) ... but really the only time I want a bigger boat is when Shoshone is at 15 thousand cfs... for most Colorado water ways I prefer the smaller boat... it makes class 3 feel super exciting!!!

and Colorado isn't exactly a big water state... so the little boat makes sense... its a dream at the put in and take out... I can move it myself... inflate it myself... etc....

and I have also taken a family of 7 down in my mini max.. 4 adults on the tubes,, 3 little kids on the thwarts... its a pretty versatile boat... and I really don't think the RMR would compare when it comes to r2 manueverablity... the mini max s suh a fun little nimble boat... and if it does flip, so easy to right....

my vote is a mini max... sweet boats...

but really you cant go wrong....

try to decide if generally you will have 5 or less paddlers... its rare for me to have a group much bigger... which is why I have a couple duckies to put people in if my mini max fills up...
 

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RMR: 10'6" long. by 5'2" wide. it says max paddlers is 4. 79lbs . cannot find amount of rocker.. 5 year warranty

Highside: 10'6" long. 5' wide. max paddlers 5. 67lbs. 25inches of rocker... 10 year warranty...

seam to be very similar dimensions... but better warranty and lighter im sure with highside...

its just like anything else im sure...the RMR will be perfectly fine... but if you have the few extra hundred dollars you get a better warranty and maybe a slightly better boat with the high side...

I would also imagine that the highside rolls up a bit tighter than the RMR. so if space and rolling size is a factor id lean high side...
 

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Hyside, no question. However, having paddled rafts on the Poo for a decade, I've gotta wonder if you've looked into the slightly narrower Super Puma?
 

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Thanks for the input everyone. I suspected that going with the minimax would be my best option, and I think y'all just confirmed that.

...And I have paddled a Super Puma--and I definitely prefer the max.
 

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apples and oranges my friend. I like The PVC RMR well enough, but they seem to be on the top end of the budget rafts whereas Hyde is a top of the line hypalon boat. that is unless you're looking at their new neoprene boats which I know nothing about, just my 2 cents
 

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Get the Hyside if it meets your needs. In a few years if you need something bigger, get another Hyside. You will never regret getting the Hyside.
 

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Hey paddlers,
I'm in the market for a small boat that I would paddle mostly on the Poudre River. I'd like to use it to paddle R2--4, maybe 5. Because I am a raft guide I have the opportunity to buy a new hyside mini max for around $1800. Which is a damn good deal. But I often see 12 foot Rocky Mountain Rafts boats for sale around 1500. Money is of course tight and I'd like to save a few hundred bucks. I also like the idea of having the 12 foot boat because it seems easier to put an extra paddler or two in there. (But I also have access to a 14 foot Otter). On the other hand, I like the portability and the value of my Mini Max deal.

Thoughts on which is the better deal for me?
You guys don't get pro deal on RMR?
Not a knock on RMR but there is reason a 20 year old Hyside is priced similar to a Brand new RMR.
 

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Not a knock on RMR but there is reason a 20 year old Hyside is priced similar to a Brand new RMR.
They're both quality boats bringing great value for their customers. If you consider that one's a fairly new market entry PVC boat that folks rave about as being a fantastic value, and the other is an established hypalon boat with about three decades in the market with a very devoted customer / fan base, it's easy to see you're comparing apples to oranges.

When I finally decide to put my 2004 vintage Vanguard out to pasture, I'd be happy with either of the three lines (RMR, Vanguard, or Hyside), or possibly another quality brand. It'll just be a matter of which suits my pocketbook and desires at the time.

SYOTR,

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I have said it before and I'll say it again, I love my Super Puma. Yes, I have paddled the MiniMe, MiniMaxx, 12 ft Otter, Aire Trib 9.5. I think the Super Puma is the most versatile boat. It can R1 to R7, can be rigged to be a gear carrying paddle boat, can be rigged with a frame for my family of 4 w/ dog, or run oar frame solo and gut lines. I was happier in a Maxx on bailey, but the NEO line felt more stretchy and thus hung up on rocks easier. I'd like to put a hypalon Maxx through there. Between the RMR and Maxx, I'd go Maxx. If I could have a quiver of boats, the Maxx would be in it, but the Super Puma is and has been the greatest $1650 I have ever spent. Thanks for having twins 10 years ago Steven.
 

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They're both quality boats bringing great value for their customers. If you consider that one's a fairly new market entry PVC boat that folks rave about as being a fantastic value, and the other is an established hypalon boat with about three decades in the market with a very devoted customer / fan base, it's easy to see you're comparing apples to oranges.
I woudnt say I, nor the OP, are comparing apples to oranges, or this enite thread wouldn't be up, after all they're both rafts... RMR are nice boats, so are Hysides, I don't think the value of Hyside has anything to do with their "devoted customer/fan base" Hyside are worth what they're worth regardless of who likes them, as is RMR, hence the reason a 20yo Hyside has a market value equal to a brand new RMR. The boats' actual "worth" and "value" is subjective.
 

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You guys don't get pro deal on RMR?

It seems that there is a question as to whether or not RMR offers Pro Deals? The answer is YES! RMR does, and always has, offered great Pro Deal discounts to our friends who are professionals in the whitewater rafting industry. Call us anytime and we will be happy to give you the details. Thanks!
 

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You guys don't get pro deal on RMR?

It seems that there is a question as to whether or not RMR offers Pro Deals? The answer is YES! RMR does, and always has, offered great Pro Deal discounts to our friends who are professionals in the whitewater rafting industry. Call us anytime and we will be happy to give you the details. Thanks!
Thanks RMR! I want to make it clear that I have rowed a couple RMR my good boating friend rows one and its a great boat.
 

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Sorry I could not find it, but there was a photo a couple of years ago here on the buzz of a minimax with three paddlers. If you want to R5 one, you might want to search for that photo to see what YOU think is a workable number of paddlers.
 

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valid point johnnovice... from shore, it does look like a clown car with 5 in it... but, we have cleaned the upper gauley in a mini maxx with 6 in it before, so it is def possible...

and the beauty of 5 is... although the paddlers are def. a little cramped.... the guide has all the room in the world from the back... and my paddlers never complain about being TOO cramped. although they certainly are cramped...

the guide has the same amount of room in the back whether r3 or r5.

also, the hyside website says max paddlers is 5. and I usually put 5 in just bout every weekend. ( with room for a small , soft cooler) but I see your point johnnovice. if you are used to ample space, I could see how someone might not like a 5 load in a mini max. but the max can no doubt handle a 5 load, regardless of someone's preferred comfort.
 

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G'one: My point was truly for the OP to decide -- I was not saying it was a bad idea, just wanted the OP to see and consider it. Of course it is also really good for the OP to hear from someone (you) who has done it that R5 worked and w/o complaint.

(Personally, just making conversation, I sold my minimax in the spring -- mostly rowed -- and got a 12 footer -- wanted a bit bigger raft for more stability in big water and ability to carry more passengers -- my passengers are typically not young folks looking for a fun, splashy (or swimingly good) time, but more sight-seeing types who would prefer to stay dry -- hm, so I guess the desired experience of passengers can play a role in boat selection.)
 

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I have the RMR 10.5 ft SB raft. It rocks. R2, 3 person paddle boat or center frame (cozy). I needed a small boat and it's great for days you don't want to be a pig on a 16 ft cat.


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