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Hop out of your raft, walk over to the concession stand, hamburger, fries, milk shake to go and continue down river. On the way back to the boat, Pause to have photo taken with Tourists. Buy tee shirt to replace the one you have been wearing for a few days as well.

So much for wilderness!
 

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The reason they are proposing this is to create jobs. I spent 7 blissful years in Southern Utah and eventually and regrettably relocated to a big city because I needed a better job. People need to realize that if they want job opportunity they might have to relocate rather than whore out the beautiful area in which they temporarily occupy. I don't like the dirty air, the speeding shiny cars, and the constant humming of the always near freeway, but I'm in a city because of work. If somebody needs to work, then they should live where the work is and visit the open and undeveloped areas to relax. I guess I'm speaking for myself.

I hope this idea dies and the people sponsoring it get the treatment they deserve.

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GRAND CANYON DEVELOPMENT

Navajo Indians proposing a 1 billion dollar casino development overlooking the confluence of the Colorado and Little Colorado.

Denver Post 1/25/12 section A

Holy F3(& Ch%$#.
 

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Hey this is america!!! Government should just get paid off and stay the [email protected] out of the equation so that everyone with a claim to that land can make a ton of money off of it

We need to privatize the national parks anyhow! Much more money to be made there anyhow strip mining for uranium. So lets sell off what we own or just give it away to some developers cause they know what creates wealth and jobs!!!!

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Ahhh right, I about that cute little addition. Spectacular.

The irony of all this is the fact that it was the ancestors of all these people that complained about "whitey" destroying natural resources with development. So much for their sense of respect for mother nature.

On the other hand, maybe they figure, "whitey keeps constructing dams on the river, making money off both commercial outfitters and private boaters, maybe we should cash in before there's nothing left to exploit." The Glen Canyon Dam is used to power Las Vegas for Heaven's sake, so it's not like the U.S. Government has a leg to stand on.

So... I guess we should get ready to start a tradition of mooning the tram tourists.
 

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So... I guess we should get ready to start a tradition of mooning the tram tourists.
Is that so when the private boating community needs public support for management plan changes that benefit us, the non-boating public will have that as their impression of private boaters?

The tram tourists aren't the ones to take out your anger on.

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not worried about the private development of one of the United States most incredible views for the sake of special interest profit, but you're worried about a few Japanese seeing my ass?! You're really a big picture guy aren't you!
 

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Hi,

Andy nailed it.

Plus, -- sad to say -- all the fluttering around on stuff like this often results in very little meaningful action.

For an example, you don't have to look any farther than the recent activity surrounding the formulation of a Long Term Experimental and Management Plan for Glen Canyon Dam. That dam is the single most influential and damaging thing impacting the Grand Canyon river environment. Yet fewer than 500 people took the time and effort to contribute their views to the task force developing the plan.

When this latest proposal gets more concrete, folks represented here and elsewhere hopefully will be energized to take useful action to stop it.

FWIW.

Rich Phillips
 

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This isn't a matter of boaters looking for public support to save the Grand Canyon from special interest development. Less than 1% of all the people that visit the Grand Canyon each year are boaters.

This is a public issue, not a boater issue.
 

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Brutha, waited for you all winter. G-town, Dad's sick. Headed home in the next few weeks. Where are you, when are you headed south?
 

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Folks hold on a minute.

This is Indian Nations land by a Treaty signed by "The Great White Father". They live there and want to make better living conditions for their families, we just pass by on land (in this case a river) our ancestors took by force from their ancestors.

I would rather see that land stay the way it is, but I don't live in a beat up old shack living off what ever pittance the "Great White Father in Washington" decides to send my way via some corrupt bureaucrat.
 

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Fair argument, but lets not pretend like the poor indian and his young wife and children are going to reap the benefits of this raping any more than you and yours benefit from the casinos that suck up millions of kilowatts from the energy produced by the Glen Canyon Dam.

Come, come. This is a money grab being made by some rich indian group that couldn't care less about the plight and conditions of the tribe. A half dozen or so greedy families will make a fortune. The rest of the reservation inhabitants will continue to live just as impoverished as the do now.
 

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Folks hold on a minute.

This is Indian Nations land by a Treaty signed by "The Great White Father". They live there and want to make better living conditions for their families, we just pass by on land (in this case a river) our ancestors took by force from their ancestors.

I would rather see that land stay the way it is, but I don't live in a beat up old shack living off what ever pittance the "Great White Father in Washington" decides to send my way via some corrupt bureaucrat.
I agree to a degree. However, are we not talking about one of the worlds greatest treasures? If folks feel that it is, then should we not fight to protect it for all future generations? That may sound cliche, but the canyon has been impacted plenty in my opinion. Casinos, trams and more tourons (Asian or otherwise) seems incapatible to preserving what's left of this resource experience in a manner that's good for everyone. But then, I'm not a Navajo, nor do I own (disputably it appears) the lands in question.
 

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Sounds awesome. Now we can boat the LCR without the bullshit illegal hike or float out. The tram could take us and our gear back up to the restaurant for beer and burgers! I'm in.
 
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