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I have a Werner paddle with very damaged blades but the shaft is fine. I was wondering if anyone has done this (or knows of a video on how to remove the blades without destroying the shaft.) Because I live in Canada the shipping costs to send it in would be really expensive. I was hoping to buy the blades and possibly do it at home. Thoughts?
 

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I wish it were as simple as the handles on a nordic ski pole, which is, put it in hot water until the glue softens then pull. Actually, I'm glad it is not that easy remembering back to surfing one day on the Bio Bio when my blade completely broke off. It really leaves you feeling inadequate. (It wasn't a Werner paddle).

Looking at my Werners' right now all I can imagine is setting aside a few days with your Dremel or multitool in hand. First cut the blade off flush with the end of the shaft. Then cut slots in the ferrule(?) down to the shaft that you can put a screw driver into and then twist. I've never done it but that is how I'd try.

Or you can contact Scott Perry at [email protected] and see if he has ideas or alternate solutions. He has always been eager to be of assistance.

Good luck!
 

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Thanks GeoRon. Doesn't sound crazy hard and it is worth a try, since the paddle is useless anyways. The worst that can happen is I mess it up and use the creeker paddle for playboating for a while. I have sent a message to Scott at Werner. Hopefully he will send me new blades which would only mean shipping one direction.
 

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I've thought about it more and have further clarification and other ideas.

I think cutting the slots the full length of the ferrule and on opposite sides gives you your best chance.

Also perhaps using a heat gun to heat the ferrule may cause thermal expansion to pop the ferrule loose or at least add to the leverage of your twisting screwdriver blade.

If only one side of the ferrule pops off then it would be time to cut another slot and go at it again.

Or perhaps Scott is going to tell you that the glue is the strongest component in the attachment process and that the shaft will splinter before the glue gives. In which case, game over:roll:

Have fun and would love to know how it turns out.
 

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I will post my results if/when I hear from Scott and if they will sell me just the blades.
 

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Dremel - variable speed - is your friend. Cutting blade and go slow, try various angles until you find the right one(s). Wear eye protection.
 

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I will post my results if/when I hear from Scott and if they will sell me just the blades.
Now that you mention it, actually selling you the blades only could open a can of worms Werner might not be interested in. So many what ifs that just ain't worth it. For example, simply, what if you f' up the shaft when you get around to removing the blade. Will you ask them to buy back the blades? And Werner definitely doesn't want a butt ugly paddle around with their name on it.

And selling to you directly also might violate arrangements with their local Werner dealer where ever or who ever they might be.

This is possibly putting Werner between a rock and a hard place which are similar places to where your paddle has been from the way it sounds.

I've got an old best buddy paddle that has blades with perhaps an inch missing all the way around, lost at less than an fraction of a millimeter at a nipping. Sometimes ya know, ya just got to suck it up and put that love of your life over the fireplace and develop a new relationship:(. Please trust me, that is not my intentions for my wife although I might end up over her fireplace. Not that anyone would appreciate that sight.

Keep us posted. Very intriguing.
 

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True B4otter, they should move the bottom of the river but that would take most of the fun outta squirt boat'in:) May I mention, my squit boat's nose is many inches shorter than when purchased.

But in a philosophical (or sexual) sense my nose goes there too often(if you interpret my meaning:))
 

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So your wife might decide to hang you over the mantle, for sticking it places it doesn’t belong???


This whole thread has me very concerned about my shaft....
 

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Hey on a serious note...
What about rebuilding the stubby blades that are on there, with fiberglass??
 

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Hey on a serious note...
What about rebuilding the stubby blades that are on there, with fiberglass??
I and likely we are allergic to fiberglass rebuild. Or perhaps I miss your meaning.

Regarding paddles and blades, I rebuilt the blade of an Illiad canoe paddle. It worked but wasn't pretty.
 

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Just trying to think outside the box...
I could see trying to rebuild the blades with fiberglass, being very difficult!!
I also thought about building some wooden replacements blades, or one wooden one and a T-grip.... could keep the paddle shaft for protection, in case of being in trouble...

What would 4Runner do, if he was hear right now??
 

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MT4runner and friends perform magic with wood and materials. It would be interesting to know what they might be able to do.

One problem perhaps with wood is mating the synthetic shaft to the wood blade. We know it is done with oars but that is a larger diameter to deal with.

The paddle that broke on me on the Bio Bio was just such a hybrid, wood laminate blade and carbon fiber shaft. It snapped right near where the wood ended internally within the shaft. Therefore it was probably more a failure of the shaft than the wood or even the joining process. But it was more than 20 years ago so my memory may be faulty.
 

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Others with a lot more construction expertise for me have commented.

I took the insert a wooden blade into the fiberglass tube as a possible solution.

I have a Bending Branches canoe paddle with a fiberglass shaft and wooden blade.
It has stood up well for my canoe trips.
Do not know how it would work on an oar shaft.
I have not had much luck posting photos, but here is BB info on my paddle.

https://bendingbranches.com/canoe-paddles/premium/sunburst/straight
 

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I broke a Werner paddle on day one of its' service a few years ago. Sort of a freak thing -- no one in the river could see where I'd hit anything, and I didn't feel myself hit anything, but there I was missing a blade.

Called Werner when I got home to see if they'd send me a blade so that I could repair it myself.

An unequivocal 'no' was the answer.
 

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I broke a Werner paddle on day one of its' service a few years ago. Sort of a freak thing -- no one in the river could see where I'd hit anything, and I didn't feel myself hit anything, but there I was missing a blade.

Called Werner when I got home to see if they'd send me a blade so that I could repair it myself.

An unequivocal 'no' was the answer.
Bummer! That is a freak thing. Did you send it in to be evaluated for defects and/or get it repaired?

After thinking about it I was wondering if they'd even be interested in selling blades only. I can't really blame them for not wanting to.

Frequently the way such situations work out best is to take it back to where you bought it and let them do the evaluation, manufacturer interaction and potential replacement at some type of reduced cost, such as, "Big bummer loyal customer. That is a freak thing. You bought that yesterday. Let's see if we can get you one at 10 percent over my cost?". Or something like that. Just saying.
 

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I too am interested in what you learn. I bought a boat last summer that came with a heavily worn paddle. It's a bent shaft player, but the blades have been worn nearly to nubs, and one is cracked. It has some extra epoxy helping it out. I asked Werner about putting new blades on it, and that could do it for $125/blade for fibreglass blades, plus shipping. I ended up finding a new bent shaft paddle on a Christmas sale for just a few dollars more, so took that road, but still have a nearly dead paddle on my hands, and I'm not sure what to do with it. Kind of hoping someone out there might be interested in it for $25 when the water starts coming up.
 
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