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Lots of gear porn threads, trailer threads, and whatnot...
Figured I would start a thread on motorboats for the river.

Post your sweet ass transom, floatilas, snouts, sportboats, jackass mods, ect

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I have a 25 hp Mariner on a fishing boat I keep in Wisconsin. I’m on the lookout for a fresher power head it’s a short shaft and most used river ones are long but maybe it was on a sport boat. I could help clear out the clutter maybe.
 

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I have a 25 hp Mariner on a fishing boat I keep in Wisconsin. I’m on the lookout for a fresher power head it’s a short shaft and most used river ones are long but maybe it was on a sport boat. I could help clear out the clutter maybe.
I have a Suzuki 55 with a remote console I'd sell, and likely a Tohatsu propane if the money was right, but 1 is a long shaft, and the propane is a very long shaft at 25". Sport boats are primarily intended for use on rivers, every one I've seen uses a long shaft, but new to the sport and there aren't a lot of them around. Plenty of used short shafts on ksl classifieds out of SLC....
 

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I have a Suzuki 55 with a remote console I'd sell, and likely a Tohatsu propane if the money was right, but 1 is a long shaft, and the propane is a very long shaft at 25". Sport boats are primarily intended for use on rivers, every one I've seen uses a long shaft, but new to the sport and there aren't a lot of them around. Plenty of used short shafts on ksl classifieds out of SLC....
The Suzuki is probably to much for the tin can. I’ve got a 5 hp why do you want to get rid of the propane. I thought about propane but figured a 3 gallon gas can would be just as easy to deal with as a 5 gallon bomb.
 

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The Suzuki is probably to much for the tin can. I’ve got a 5 hp why do you want to get rid of the propane. I thought about propane but figured a 3 gallon gas can would be just as easy to deal with as a 5 gallon bomb.
I love the propane motor, I have just gotten away from that particular type of boating, and move to full blown motorboating for the most part. It's not like I have it listed for sale or anything, but if somebody came by and offered me a reasonable price for it I'd let it go. One of the really nice things about propane motors is you don't have to smell gasoline, and you have propane along anyway...
 

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So are jet boats illegal in the Grand Canyon? Must be otherwise they’d be there I’d guess.
They're not illegal, all the regs say is you can't have more than 50 horse, or it might be 55 horse I forget, but $150 prop is a whole lot cheaper than a couplea grand jet drive that you would find on a 50 horse outboard. Not to mention, it's been my observation that jet drives on outboards tend to hang down a whole lot more than the lower unit and the prop... Not sure where the benefit to having a jet drive down there would be? I can think of a whole lot of downsides though..
 

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They're not illegal, all the regs say is you can't have more than 50 horse, or it might be 55 horse I forget, but $150 prop is a whole lot cheaper than a couplea grand jet drive that you would find on a 50 horse outboard. Not to mention, it's been my observation that jet drives on outboards tend to hang down a whole lot more than the lower unit and the prop... Not sure where the benefit to having a jet drive down there would be? I can think of a whole lot of downsides though..
i think you are supposed to run a short shaft outboard with a jetfoot in place of a long shaft w/ prop... only the foot needs to be in the water... look up solar jet boats/jetech inflatables on youtube, those guys are bouncing up gravel bars with only a few inches of water. it is a tunnel hull design, which might be important for getting clear water into the foot...
 

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Not only is it frowned upon, it's completely prohibited, unless of course you're the national Park service or the USGS...

R. Upstream Travel. No vessel shall engage in primarily upstream travel above Separation Canyon (RM 240).

I'm not positive that this is true the regulations say "primarily upstream travel", the way i read that (and understood it) was that as long as someone was making downstream progress through out the day they were not engaging in "primarily upstream travel"...
 

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R. Upstream Travel. No vessel shall engage in primarily upstream travel above Separation Canyon (RM 240).

I'm not positive that this is true the regulations say "primarily upstream travel", the way i read that (and understood it) was that as long as someone was making downstream progress through out the day they were not engaging in "primarily upstream travel"...
That would be one interpretation. I'm not sure that I would want to argue it with an NPS ranger on the river... I do know that in 2000 we had a snout along, which was ferrying people back and forth from cremation to phantom ranch, one of the phantom ranch rangers mentioned that it was frowned upon, and prohibited in the regulations... But you sure do bring up an interesting point..
 
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I think it is frowned upon, but I don't think it goes against regulations. the upstream travel regulation is applicable to all vessels, if they don't have a problem with a dory making the trip from cremation to boatmans beach and back to cremation, then there shouldn't be an issue with a snout doing the same...
 

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Just for fun, ho do you run a rapid in a snout? Let’s say lava , do you gently motor to the right get on the bubbles then give her the onion? I just keep thinking it’s like r1 where you line it up for the drift but can you drive them ? Is it scary?
 
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