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If you are a staunch supporter of an existing political party, vote that way. If you currently support a party as a "lesser of two evils" decission and would like to vote for a third party if you felt you wouldn't be throwing away your vote, then try to select an alternative party - I hope I list enough alternative parties. If you are truly independent, meaning you evaluate each candidate based on their merits and vote your conscience, then select independent.**note on alternative parties** - there are several, so I tried to pick the most prevalent, totally subjective on my part. If you need assistance on party information, go to - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_the_United_States
 

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Do you want the party we're affiliated with or the one we'd vote for we didn't live in a de facto two-party state?
 

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Read my post. Looking for your ideal party. Basically, I'm sick of two party politics. I want to see and encourage people to take a look at the other parties. Check out the link to Wikipedia.
 

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Crap, I forgot to put Independent! So, choose something else...if you had to choose, say a primary situation.
 

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Wanted to put independent but I put Republican since my unbiased evaluation tends to result in that way more than any other options (though that's still only 55-60% of the time).
 

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Culture of Corruption: Bush & Cheney the Enron Republica

Why any decent American will not affiliate with republicans:
Voter fraud, election rigging and high crimes and misdemeanors all come to mind at first.

The Republican party is entrenched with corporate interest and special interest lobbyists who are selling off public lands, polluting our lands and waters and forfeiting our Bill of Rights in the name of 'security'. They have already sold off the Clean Water Act and STILL propose drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. While the Democrats are not much better, we have the Repubs ruling the White House, the Senate, AND Congress

$300 BILLION dollars and three years later, we have more bodybags coming home from IRAQ and Afghanistan and our troops are left as referees in a Civil War in a Muslim country. Thanks to genius Repub leadership, Iraq remains a war without a purpose nor plan. "Stay the course" is pure insanity and blind faith in a clueless leader who opened the Pandora's box of wars.

Republicans SAY they are the party of lesser government, yet the Republican regime in power has created the biggest beaurocratic entity in the history of the U.S.

The republican party is currently deeply ensconced with multiple horrific scandals involving breaches of public trust too ghastly to name in a paragraph.

Does the name Tom DeLay mean anything to you?
Does Karl Rove ring a bell. There are many examples of top republican leaders who have been forced from their offices due to being caught lieing to Grand Jurys and scamming tax payers.
How about Charlie Wilson's war? Want to know how we got into so much trouble with fundamentalist Islam? Read up on how we trained the Mujahideen and incited a holy war that has backfired in our faces.
Are you familiar with Jack Abramoff and the multple scandals he is involved in with multiple congressional and senate republicans?

Think before you vote. Do your homework. Be willing to listen to all sides.

The republican party in the old days was known as the party of lesser government and fiscal responsibility.
Times have changed.
The republican party is now known as the culture of corruption and greed.

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- I have to agree with blutzski that the Dems have trouble too, but rather than giving up voting due to frustration, I'm looking harder for a good libertarian or democratic candidate.
Someone not corrupted by the deep pocketed lobbying groups.
 

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Kayaker, you are half right. Write that again but this time replace Republican with Democrat in most of the sentences and you'll have the whole story. Let's face it, they both suck and they're probably a whole lot more similar than most people would like to believe.

I'm tempted to take the advice of that AARP commercial and "Don't Vote". I feel like I'm just playing along with their game and justifying the shit they pull.

I voted Libertarian in the poll just based on the 5 minutes I just spent researching it on Wikipedia. I use to consider myself Republican before seeing America - Freedom to Fascism. Being realistic about the world we live in rules out being a Democrat.
 

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Yeah, the Libertarian Party is pretty cool. But then you read the platform and discover that they essentially think we ought to have no foreign relations and would step out of all the treaties we've entered. I sure like a lot about the libertarian ideals, but not having a serious foreign policy in an age of irreversible globalization is flat-out non-thinking stupidity, IMNSHO.
 

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They both suck, like they said in South Park, every year we have to choose between a "Turd Sandwich" and a "Giant Douche". And just think, if Hillary were to run and win we will have been ruled by the same two families for 24years..
 

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I definitely agree with the last person's comments. We need more political paties to rise up in this country, so that more ideas are expressed. It may also have the benefit of preventing corporations and lobyists from putting too much money into one or two strong political paties.

On another topic, our populous would not make such poor political decisons (i.e. invading Iraq) if the news media wasn't dominated by a select few corporations with right-wing agendas. I prefer to listen to British Broadcast Company (BBC) and the Canadian Broadcast Company (CBC) because I think there news is far less biased and much more indepth. I think it's a disgrase that the only thing the US news media wants to cover right now is this petafile named Foley. We have much bigger problems like a growing insurgency in Afghanistan. Shame on the media and shame on politicians!!!!!

Sorry... I know it's a kayaking site, but dammit... sometimes I just need to vent.
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Yea, I've been thinking the same thing as Curtis. The US has much bigger problems than this one guy going after boys! But, it is kind of funny what it says about the Republican Party values.

The things that bother me the most are how many people can't get reasonable health insurance, how many people work their tails off yet can't get reasonable housing, and that we have lost our credibility in the world.
 

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Just to stir the pot a bit...

Imagine how different our 2-party system would be if everyone was able to vote in the Primaries. In my opinion, when only registered voters of one party can vote in that party's primary, of course you are always going to get candidates that lie further left/right on the spectrum than most of the population. The American Politcal ideology is plotted on a Bell Curve. If everyone could vote for every political party's primary, the national candidates might actually be more centered, instead of appealing to the far right/left population, then scrambling to come back to center after winning their primary.

If this were the case, maybe the real moderate (I know that is a scary word for many on both sides of the aisle) candidates like John McCain or Joe Lieberman could actually have a chance at the White House. IMO a moderate candidate would be breath of fresh-air from the staunch Republican and the Bed-wetting Liberal who have occupied it for the last 15 years.

Of course the chances of the primary system being changed are about as good as a multi-party system being introduced into American Politics.

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.. or how about a John McCain / Joe Lieberman ticket independant run? seeing that Lieberman is trouncing his own party's nomination in the polls, I would vote for that in a second.. or for the expatriate Minnesotans out there we could vote for Jesse V
 

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My association came from the "10 question quiz," but I agree that ideally voting on an independent basis is really the only way to go...
 

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to add on to my previous comment about voting on a case by case basis... to address the spirit of the post I would say that I am left of center on social issues and right of center on fiscal issues. Maybe the poll should be re-done to gage how liberal/conservative buzzards are in the social and fiscal areas?
 

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Alex, that pretty much covers my politics as well.
I have voted Republican (not Bush) and Democratic. It depends on who and what they represent. If you like a conservative fiscal agenda it has been very difficult to vote Republican for a while. Odd but the Republicans seem to be the one's that cant control their spending.
 

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This is an interesting question. I tend to align most with the libertarian point-of-view, but the US election system and laws strongly favor the two main parties. I find myself often voting for the douche bag who actually has a chance of defeating the turd sandwich rather than the "best" candidate.

Growing up I always tended to align with the republican ideals of a smaller, less intrusive, fiscally responsible government. Today's GOP has completely abandoned all of that. Bush is completely out-of-control on Iraq and the war on terror, and the congress has abdicated its oversight responsibility, rubber stamping all this madness.

Consequently I'm supporting the democrats who have a chance at breaking the GOP stranglehold on the government and (possibly) restore some element of checks and balance to the government.
 
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