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I need help making my LL Airhead a little better fit. I have noticed when I start going a bit harder I really move around a lot inside. Also I don't think its a good thing when you start to slide out when you go upside down is it?? :)
My dimensions are 6' 190#
I would also like to be able to either make everything or be able to buy it at any hardware store or such. Super cheap here!!
So far I've got:
1.Put in hip shims and pads. I've got the self adhesive pads that came with the boat but they over hang a lot on the post that they go on. Any ideas on how to solve this?? Or better alternatives that cost very little(I mean super little) and require not ordering anything.
2.Move the foam bulkhead forward about 4-6 inches.Not really much help on this one but if you've got any ideas don't hold back.
3.Create better thigh hooks. Maybe shave a couple of blocks so there are like pockets for my knees.
I had no idea what I was buying when I got it, And knew nothing about the sport when I made the purchase. I wish I could get a new boat but for now I've go to make this work.

I would like any ideas you have
I expect the almighty buzzards to prove their expertise in kayak outfitting while keeping the costs down. I know there are a bunch of you cheap boaters out there.
Thanks for anything you can help with,
Luke
 

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luke you are about 10 pounds to light for the boat but no biggy.. throw some foam under your ass to help bring your knees closer to the deck and build the foot block up with some ducktap so if forces your knees up into the braces more. the more hip support the better
 

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When i had my EZ i hacked apart an old life jacket and used the foam out of it on the seat. Helped bring my ass up higher in the boat and made the thigh braces line up better.

I'd imagine you can also shim some lifejacket foam into the hip pads.
 

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closed cell foam sleeping pad

In South America we'd just find an old foam ground pad, hack it up, duck tape it to shape, then glue it in with something resembling PVC cement. For more temporary attachment, use duct tape only to attach it to the boat. Don't be afraid to go in there with a knife to modify the foam either from the factory or that you've put in. It does take a little time, but can be customized to 100% perfection (may look like ass though). Make sure it won't come out during a swim.

My personal recommendations/experience with this is make it a bit too tight, as the foam will compress down significantly in the first 5 days of use or so. However, don't make it so tight that it makes you nervous. Always be able to get out of the boat in an emergency obviously. I like my boats snug.

If you can find a trashed ground pad in the basement, this usually only takes about $5 and an hour of time. A Ridgerest would work, but I wouldn't like the ridge texture to it.

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Thanks for the info sounds like I need to raise my seat with foam more than bring the footrest up. Well I think Ill go find somewhere I can get some foam that will work. (anyone tried home depot??)

Oh and Mike empty out your pm inbox
Thanks everybody
 

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Closed-cell Foam

Make sure you get closed-cell foam for your fitting. It is easier to carve/shape, glues well, and won't soak up a lot of water.

Don't think Home Depot carries closed-cell foam. Best bet is a kayak shop, or, as stated earlier, use a closed-cell foam sleeping pad (Walmart or Outdoor store).

Hardware store sells a spray-on glue that is ideal for outfitting. Spray on, wait until tacky, and stick. Works great!
 

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So I lucked out found some closed cell packing for our computer we got recently. found some spots that I could carve some out of well, duck and taped em up nice and tight.Whats the best way to conect it to my kayak tho?? Hope fully I'll get some pics up to show the end product.
what kind of glue were you talking about at the hardware store?
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how thick should my ass pad be?? I know it depends on my fit but generally what is a good width to start at?
As you can tell I am completely new to this work.
 

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Glue

Easiest glue I have used for fitting is a spray-on glue by 3M, for rubber and vinyl. Super easy to work with, and not messy.
 

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That 3M is spray is what I use, but I've found that you have to use a shitload of it. When I have outfitted my boats what I've done is sit in my boat and shove as much foam in on both sides as you can just to use as a reference point, and then cut/shave and glue from there.
 

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2nd the 3M spray

3m spray glue and MEK for clean up. This is some toxic stuff but it works good!
 

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maybe order from these guys...

I know you said you'd rather buy from the local hardware store, etc.... BUT

kayakers have been trying to get around buying minicell foam for 20 years (as we are generally a 'thrifty' lot) but there's really no alternative - harvesting from other equipment (sleeping pads, etc.) not withstanding you might be best to just break down and order the proper quantity

try the web's best resource for kayak outfitting

unfortunately the shipping's what will get you with gas prices nowadays

really there's no substitute for a well outfitted boat especially when you're starting out - I don't think anyone's mentioned a piece of dragonskin or a shaper from the local hardware goes a long way towards getting the right shape for your hip pads. Usually if you budget $40 or $50 and a couple of hours of time you can have super bomber outfitting. I find if I cut a special piece for LL playboats to go under the stock hip pad that leaves a gap for the back band connector but goes into the gap all the way to the plastic it really tightens things up

best of luck!
 

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I've been making some riverboards this summer and have a bunch of scrap minicell foam. Shoot me a pm if you still need it. There really is no good substitute for minicell.
 

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Thanks all
So far the computer case packing has worked like a dream. so for now I'm working on the seat. Instead of moving the bulkhead forward I moved the seat forward and it has helped greatly.
Gage thanks for the offer but I don't think I need it anymore.
appreciate everything
Luke
 
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