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say what you will.......medman be careful, kayakers tend to care about the environment, other communities around the world, and their civil rights, therefore they tend to be left wingers. Rule 1: attack content and not spelling. Rule 2: you must include some insult of front rangers (bonus points go towards wit)

Lets get ready to rumble!!!!!
 

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I beleive that would be true of us more educated and well traveled Front Range kayakers. I am not sure about the west slopers tho. Of course it is about time for busboys and dishwashers to report so we might not hear from them for awhile. Maybe when the property managment guys get done with their yard work? peace sj
 

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I have a hard time believing the the interior of CO. voted Kerry, regardless, Boulder went left, waaaay left; so I can say it's not "our" fault.

It's possible to be a kayaker and be conservative, it's just not possible to be a kayaker and support the bush admin. Unless of course you are a kayaker that supports increased logging, reduced pollution controls and consistent big business give-a-ways.

I want to see Bush and Chaney in a tandom kayak running paralyzer on lake creek. Perhaps that would begin the healing process for me. Maybe.
 

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Jeez Dan Is'nt Indian hills in the front range? 8) I live in a precinct that went 85% bush. And nothing says [email protected]$ You like a dirty Honda, boat on top with a "Don't Blame me I did'nt vote for him"Bummper sticker. sj
 

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You people kill me...You drive your huge trucks and suvs and think the problem is the bush admin..This shit(politics,money) has been going on way before bush..Pick your poison,you want to bitch about oil and the enviorment then stop driving to the numbers,or lake creek or obj..You want to talk educated,step up and look in the mirror,then say something...We are all a bunch of hypocrites,so don't come on here and start talking shit about "if you voted for bush your not a paddler" or whatever...I usaully avoid these topics,religion,politics ect cause you can talk forever and the veiws stay the same...So stop whinning cause your guy lost and vote again and again til you are happy and then I don't have to listen to a bunch of whinny bitches....I voted for kerry by the way,get over it,HE SUCKS ALSO!
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Better distinguish between Denver and suburbia,it,s the suburban lifestyle thats the most disgusting on the planet,the inner city is a little more responsible.Highlands Ranch epitomizes everything an urban area SHOULD NOT BE ,sprawl,oversized homes,complete dependence on cars,no diversity,kids whose parents have thier lives planned out to the minute 4 years in advance,etc.
Lets get these Mayberry MACHIEVELLIANS out of office asap ,I'm gettin' tired of being embarrassed/ashamed of saying where i'm from when i travel abroad,sometimes i lie and say i'm Canadian.

SEND FESTUS BACK TO TEXAS,
AND CHENEY TO THE HAGUE,
WOLFOWITZ STRAIGHT TO HELL,
RUMSFELDT TO ABU GRHAIB.
 

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Well said Gary. I would add this one thing: Reasonable minds will differ. Narrow-minded people don't seem to understand this, and neither side has any shortage of them.
 

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re: paddlers drive too much, so they they are hypocrites who cannot claim to be environmentalists.

This definitely has merit, but how often do paddlers drive one-to-a-car from the front range to OBJ? Not very often. How often do people driving to work in the city drive one-to-a-car? Almost exclusively. Getting out and paddling makes people respect the pristine and natural, and that is the basis for forming environmental views, which are reflected in many ways such as voting, product selection, advocacy, etc.

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sj- i think you're funny, Man... but i thought your honda sh!t the bed.
 

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The amount I drive for recreation bothers me but considering I rode the bus and/or lightrail to work everyday for three years I think I've built up a lot of credit.
 

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Lets see, 10,000 kayakers/whitewater ppl voting Kerry
100,000 ranchers/private ppl that hate kayakers voting Bush
Dam I hate the odds

Plus the frontrangers who are all mixed
and the westerners who are all ranchers therefore all Bush ppl


Isn't It just time to give up on our present president and start trying to get people to vote for a Democrate at the next election?
 

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Yeah tboner that over the top sarcasm just dose'nt quite transfer to this medium. Found a engine in a wreck with less milage than the body slapped it in and it's running like a champ. Yano reduce reuse recycle :roll: sj
 

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score so far.....
Gary E....+3 for a meaningless rant (gotta love it) Total 3

Twitch...+5 for bashing the shit out of me, -10 for living on the front range for a girl, Total -10

sj....-2 for bashing mountaineers and saying that there are educated front rangers, +2 for the indian hills comment, -3 for driving a gas guzzling old car, -1 for not passing emissions, +3 for recycling, Total -1

skikayak_365....-2 for numbers pulled out of a hat, total -2

double-a-ron....+2 for starting this thread, -2 for getting bashed, +2 for getting out of the front range as soon as possible,-4 for living in SoCal, Total -2

lurch....+2 for light rail, -2 for being on the front range, Total 0

tboner...-5 for being off topic, Total -5

ACC....+1 for insightful comment, -1 for being wrong (we dont car pool for the environment, we car pool so that we can bake the whole car), Total 0

Caspian....-5 for trying to level heads, this is a brawl...not room for moderates, DQed

cayo....-1 for defending denver, +3 for bashing HR, +1 for The Prince reference, -3 for not actually understanding The Prince reference,+1 for the cute poem, -3 for saying your from U.S. Jr, Total -2

De la boot....+2 for a good point, -1 for not bashing front rangers, Total -1

Dan Orion...+2 for good research, -1 for leaving out the mountain's red countys, Total +1

medman....-5 for not lending us his "educated" opinion (how exactly does a medical degree qualify you as educated in Political Science/Economics/Business/Environmental Studies/Religion?)

Round two......
 

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Medman I appreciated your civility in our previous dispute.I greatly respect your profession.You are certainly entittled to your oppinion,but in light of YOUR PARTY'S tactics in recent years ,spewing all kinds of anti-liberal venom don't you think you're the one being hipocritical!!I guess republicans can dish it out but can't take it.
I agree we are hipocrits who drive to much.
 

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Can't we all agree to just hate one another and any political view that we disagree with? Isn't that what good ol' American politics is all about anyway? Medman... you shouldn't get all bent out of shape if people give you or any other Republican a hard time. It's their job as a blue-blooded American liberal to tell you what a schmuck you are for being a gay-bashing, bible-thumping, poverty-hating, gun-loving, racism-promoting, war-mongerer who has no love or compassion for anyone who makes less than $65,000 a year before benefits. NOW, it's your job to tell all those pinko birkenstock-wearing, welfare-using, tax-increasing, tree-hugging, granola-eating, big government-loving, long-haired hippies to take a bath once a week, shave their woman's armpits and move out of Boulder and into what the rest of us call "reality." NOW that is what real American politics is about. So instead of getting bent out of shape about hurt feelings and futile attempts to make light of issues that have no end... you should join the rest of us in a little slap-happy humor and stupid insults. After all, in the end, isn't that what American politics is anyway... hating each other for our differences and embracing our hatred for the "other un-patriotic, non-America loving people" who disagree with us? :wink:
 
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