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I was reading a posting from brenda in the other forum and was wondering if there are any older female paddlers out there that are still rockin!!! I am 49 and just starting out. Any fun stories:p
 

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I'm 40, and started rafting 3 years ago, this will be my fourth. So how about "middle aged chicks still rock!" Heck, we never have to call ourselves old if we're out ripping lines and making big drops, right?

Not many women use this forum on the Buzz, and I think that is too bad. But it does often take "older women" to have gotten past the competitive stage with other women, and be ready to cut the sh!t. And there aren't a ton of us on the Buzz. That said, most of the guys can't keep their eyes to themselves so it's never really a womens forum anyways, but they usually have good insight to offer with experiences with girlfriends and wives too so it ends up all good.

I think it's great you're learning to boat, learning anything at any age over 30 takes a lot of guts, male or female.
 

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Not being female, but having heard a female perspective, men tend to be more competitive, whereas women usually compare themselves unfavorable to other women.

I've got a Grand Canyon trip planned with two young women who don't know each other, but both have good boating skills. I'm wondering if they should share a boat or each go solo.


Not many women use this forum on the Buzz, and I think that is too bad. But it does often take "older women" to have gotten past the competitive stage with other women, and be ready to cut the sh!t. And there aren't a ton of us on the Buzz. That said, most of the guys can't keep their eyes to themselves so it's never really a womens forum anyways, but they usually have good insight to offer with experiences with girlfriends and wives too so it ends up all good.
 

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Not being female, but having heard a female perspective, men tend to be more competitive, whereas women usually compare themselves unfavorable to other women.

I've got a Grand Canyon trip planned with two young women who don't know each other, but both have good boating skills. I'm wondering if they should share a boat or each go solo.
Talk to them about it. And encourage them to support each other, it's amazing how easily men can enable competition between women, mostly without even knowing it! It depends on their personality and level of security. Do they have a lot of women boating/recreational friends? Then they'll likely be more in tune with each other and used to enjoying such things with women. If they are more used to boating/recreating with only men, sharing the spotlight with another woman will be unfamiliar, and thus probably uncomfortable. Younger, likely more competitive.

I can relate to this, I was in the competitive section when younger, there were no other women doing what I was doing, and so that was my norm. I was "one of the guys", and I didn't like someone stepping on my territory. So the more you can discourage competitiveness, and support them as co-females, the better your trip will be.

Even though fighting women can be hell, keep in mind if you are the odd one out in your own faction against two women in the canyon, well....god help you then. :-D
 

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I am not really old yet…although sometimes I feel like it. I don’t think age has anything to do with being competitive with other people. I feel like it is a personality and confidence issue rather than a matter of age.And maybe it takes age to sort out thoes types of things, I don't know. I do not think I am really competitive with other women boaters. When I am paddling, I am paddling. I am also “one of the guys” in fact; most of the guys I paddle with don’t really see me as a “girl” anyways. I also am not defensive about the guys I paddle with. If a girl moves in on one of them, great, it lets them focus on just paddling when I am on the river with them. Seems like a perfect situation for me. Why would I complain?

I really enjoy paddling with other girls; I have gotten some of my closest female friends paddling and LOVE being on the river with them. Girls think about the river and paddle much differently than guys do. It is good to be in common thought on thought water or even just float trips. I wish there were more girls on the water; I always seem to enjoy paddling more with them around.

Plus, the lame macho man jokes get old after a while.
 

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I'm not that old either, but I agree with CUKayakgirl- competitive spirit isn't male or female, but personal. I never enjoyed team sports because I'm not competitive- I suck at Monopoly for the same reason.

I love boating because I can challenge myself and I love it when there are other girls around with the same mindset. Unfortunately, I often find myself the only girl or at least the only female rower.

I tried to set up an all girl boat trip on the Green last fall on here and had 0 takers. I ended up taking my mom and my son and we had a great time.

Fortunately I've always felt comfortable in a group of guys or girls, so as long as I'm on the water, what the hell.

The only thing I wish is that there were better male raft guide jokes- the female ones are so much better!
 

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I'm 50 and loving life. Well, as soon as spring get's here. I am passionate about kayaking. I had my best season last year and stepped it up a bit venturing down Gore, Black Rock on CC and more than 18,000 vertical feet in EddyFlowers challenge. I feel compulsive once the rivers start flowing. Sometimes I think I've got to get it while I can because of my age, but I realize that the young guys are going for it full blast, too. It's the nature of run off in Colorado and life. It won't last forever.
 

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TMTTR - I'd love to do an all girls trip! I wanted to do the one in the fall, but timing was bad. And there's a few other chicks that would join as well.

Sue - You're my hero!!!

I plan on being on the river until I die.

Laurie
 

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sue you are amazing. you remind me of a good fellow in cody named Ed. keep it up i hope i can even bend over to get in my boat at that age.
 

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I'm not that old either, but I agree with CUKayakgirl- competitive spirit isn't male or female, but personal. I never enjoyed team sports because I'm not competitive- I suck at Monopoly for the same reason.
Maybe that's so, and I only can speak from my own experience. But, I did see the same in others, and saw it more clear as I got older and was able to grow up and away from that competitiveness. So more power to the girls that stick together - yeah!

Wouldn't an all-girl rowing/paddling trip be awesome! I don't know any other women rowers either. Although I do loosely know probably one of the best cat-boaters, male or female, but she does crazy creeking stuff and small waterfalls. I get on the Lochsa and think it is big water, for her it is an easy day. Just can't relate and don't overlap in our boating.

Shit, let's make up our own jokes, everyone's easy to laugh at! For now we could just make jokes about Mike wanting to "bend over" when he's 50! LMAO!!!
 

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Well hell- let's start planning something. I've already got a Lodore for Spring Break and a Salt for the 6th or 12th. I'll be leaving for NC June 10th or so and be back August 1st. So I guess I have a couple 2 week windows the first of June and the 1st of August.

I only applied for a Grand trip since I'll be gone most of the Summer, so I don't have any permits.

Anyone else have an idea or permit for an all girls trip?
 

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Well, maybe we could do an all-girls rowing/paddling trip, with token men as our bow-sprees. My hubby and I are planning Deso in early September,we want to do a trip with the dogs. No date set yet, but don't want to do it in the blasting heat, and dogs aren't allowed till mid August either.
 

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Sue...Finally...another female paddler close to my age. I am 52, and crazy about paddling, but only started 2 years ago. I have pushed myself pretty hard, but still only paddle mostly class 3 and some short sections of class 4. That probably will be the limit for me. At the end of last year, I got more into playboating. I am a total gong show but at least I roll back up. I love hearing about other 50ish women paddlers...it inspires me:mrgreen:
 

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So here's a challenge ladies? Look how well the women's teams did in the vert challenge. Not about competing??? No we all had a great time and did some rivers we wouldn't normally do (3 times at least). If you love to paddle I suggest the mass formation of some more women's teams for vert challenge, it's a great way to meet other women paddlers and travel to their rivers all on neutral funn loving river territory
 

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I encourage all paddlers to join an Eddyflower.com Veritcal Challenge team. The point of the challenge is to raise money for a great cause, First Descents who offers a kayaking camp to young adult with cancer, while paddling as much as you can!

I was a bit amibivalent last year and couldn't talk any of my friends into joining a team, but I signed up as a team of one. In the begining, I thought that I'd just put a sign up at the office and just log the runs I'd normally do, but a competitve desire to do more emerged. Signing up for the challenge was the best thing I did for my paddling: I made new friends, I ran new rivers, and I gave a chance for someone else that has much to gain from the very sport I love.

I saw paddle rafting teams participating in the challenge as well! Just check out the eddyflower.com to get more info.
 

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I encourage all paddlers to join an Eddyflower.com Veritcal Challenge team. The point of the challenge is to raise money for a great cause, First Descents who offers a kayaking camp to young adult with cancer, while paddling as much as you can!

I was a bit amibivalent last year and couldn't talk any of my friends into joining a team, but I signed up as a team of one. In the begining, I thought that I'd just put a sign up at the office and just log the runs I'd normally do, but a competitve desire to do more emerged. Signing up for the challenge was the best thing I did for my paddling: I made new friends, I ran new rivers, and I gave a chance for someone else that has much to gain from the very sport I love.

I saw paddle rafting teams participating in the challenge as well! Just check out the eddyflower.com to get more info.
Well I was thinking, why not? It would be fun. I was reading the info, and saw that it was applicable to only certain runs, and it seems that they don't have a rep that knows the boating around Missoula. Not a single listing for the Clarkfork River (not Clarks Fork), and only 1 for the Blackfoot, a damn long run that is rarely run in one day. I might check with them to see how to add runs, a friend of mine is putting out new river maps, so has gps coordinates and such, which might help them approve the runs. They do list a lot of Lochsa runs, which I hope to run a lot this year.
 

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Any runs not listed you just need to add to Eddyflower.com:

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The Vertical Challenge is open to all paddlers from all states, however the run details must be listed on EddyFlower and must have a valid put-in elevation and take-out elevation to be eligible. Teams must use put-ins and take-outs defined in the run details for contest credit. See the Rules on the Details page. If your local runs are not listed please let us know and we'd be happy to get the runs listed. Each run listed below is linked to a run details page, just click the run name. The following runs are eligible for the EddyFlower Vertical Challenge (listed) and:
Don't see your local run on this list? Add it here
 

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I just took a quick look to see how many Montana runs are listed on EddyFlower and how many Montana runs are eligible for the Vertical Challenge i.e. must have Put-in Elevation & Take-out Elevation...

Total Montana Runs on EddyFlower - 106
Total Montana Runs eligble for Vertical Challege - 44

Shoot me a list of runs you'd like eligible and we'll get to work digging up the put-in and take-out elevations.

If anyone wants to rally a team in a state we currently don't have runs listed let me know and we'll help you get the runs up so you can compete.

Cheers,
Paul
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