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We're up in Missoula and need to get out of town for the weekend. We'd love to get our raft on the water and explore a little of Idaho. Is anything runnable? We would love to either do an overnight with an easier shuttle or a couple day stretches. Been keeping an eye on AW and see some stretches of the Salmon and Payette are promising, but we've never been on anything in Idaho except for the Lochsa and could use some suggestions from our friends over the border:)
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The payette system is always running. There are day stretches in the I, II, III, III+ and IV- range right now.

They have good camping, access, easy shuttles and are quality runs. Don't forget to check out all of the hotsprings while you are at it.

probably a bit low for real fun on any of the salmon system outside of the permit areas. If you have time and money you can get middlefork and main permits now easily on recreation.gov
 

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I've been looking for an overnighter for next weekend (not necessarily Idaho), and one option is the Main Salmon below North Fork. I don't really know the details, and we're going to be in IK's, but it's probably worth checking out to see if rafts would work. We've also considered the Selway below the falls, but lots of houses and car campers to avoid and may be too low for rafts. We haven't checked into the details on this either.

The Main Salmon below Carey should have plenty of water, and is a gorgeous canyon with lots of sandy beaches.

I thought the SF Payette was "off" now?

There's always the Snake, I think permits are pretty easy to pick up this time of year.
 

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We got off the Middle Fork Saturday before last, and the stretch below North Fork looked good. The steelhead fisherman will be showing up on that stretch before long, so I'd get while the gettin's good.
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I've been looking for an overnighter for next weekend (not necessarily Idaho), and one option is the Main Salmon below North Fork. I don't really know the details.....
Funny I was thinking of this too for another campout with the girls before way cold season starts.

Hmmmmm......
 

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We got off the Middle Fork Saturday before last, and the stretch below North Fork looked good. The steelhead fisherman will be showing up on that stretch before long, so I'd get while the gettin's good.
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How was the level? Putting in Friday.
 

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Lower Salmon hammer creek to pine bar is a good over nighter. Lots of camping and a couple waves. also, Jet boats and salmon fishers tend to stay out of that section of water. Just head down the lochsa pop over to grangeville and your there!
 

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How was the level? Putting in Friday.
We launched from Indian Creek on Sept. 10 at 1.89 feet, had a jump up to 2 feet on our next to the last day after some rain, and took out on Sept 17 at around 1.95 feet. This was a really sweet level for a September trip. I think it was around 1.78 feet when I checked the website today. So still a good level. Our weather was awesome. A little rain at night, but not too chilly, and no bad wind. A little smoky from a fire around Ship Island, but not bad at all.

John In Loveland - I didn't fish this year. I've had some tendonitis in my right wrist, so I didn't want to overdo things with any fly fishing and end up really sore for rowing. There were a lot of outfitters with fishing groups while we were on the river. The most folks we've ever had at Indian Creek in September, and more than usual coming from the top. Abstaining from fishing was KILLING me.......I swear the fish were mocking me as I floated over them. The fisherman we saw seemed to be doing really well.

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Sounds like there are some great options. Thanks so much! Laura and KJ, would like some more thoughts on the sections below North Fork. White water bible isn't helping me too much. Ha! Sounds like a great close option if we could find a two day section. Also, Idahofloater- do you know the river miles for hammercreek to pine bar? my book is saying only 10, but it might not be accurate....The forecast keeps improving everytime i check it!
 

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We launched from Indian Creek on Sept. 10 at 1.89 feet, had a jump up to 2 feet on our next to the last day after some rain, and took out on Sept 17 at around 1.95 feet. This was a really sweet level for a September trip. I think it was around 1.78 feet when I checked the website today. So still a good level. Our weather was awesome. A little rain at night, but not too chilly, and no bad wind. A little smoky from a fire around Ship Island, but not bad at all.

John In Loveland - I didn't fish this year. I've had some tendonitis in my right wrist, so I didn't want to overdo things with any fly fishing and end up really sore for rowing. There were a lot of outfitters with fishing groups while we were on the river. The most folks we've ever had at Indian Creek in September, and more than usual coming from the top. Abstaining from fishing was KILLING me.......I swear the fish were mocking me as I floated over them. The fisherman we saw seemed to be doing really well.

KJ
Thanks for the info. Leave in about 4 hrs for Boundary.
 

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Sounds like there are some great options. Thanks so much! Laura and KJ, would like some more thoughts on the sections below North Fork. White water bible isn't helping me too much. Ha! Sounds like a great close option if we could find a two day section. Also, Idahofloater- do you know the river miles for hammercreek to pine bar? my book is saying only 10, but it might not be accurate....The forecast keeps improving everytime i check it!
I have only floated a little of this section to steelhead fish, but I drive it at least twice a year for Main Salmon & Middle Fork trips. Mileage depends on where you put-in & take-out, there are lots of options. The Shoup section has several nice rapids that look to be class III (Pine Creek comes to mind), and if you take-out at Cache Bar or Corn Creek you will have to run Cramer Creek which rates a III+? Many sandy beach camping options, and the road follows the river with some camping / pit toilet options here & there. Laura may have more detailed info on put-in choices. I have always thought that this would be a nice weekend run. Have fun.
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I don't. I've never really paid attention to that section. CD told me there's a lot of private property (thinking camping, I don't want a campground) along the way to avoid. It's looking like this weekend is the window, as the current weather forecast for the following is looking bleak. I had forgotten about the Lower Salmon. That section mentioned is gorgeous (no whitewater though). If you're up for the drive I recommend it.
 

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Sounds like the section from n fork to corn creek will be pretty busy, but we're going for it! I'll give a report. And yeah, seems like this may be the last warm wknd:(
 

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I just got off the middle Sunday, it was amazing for this time of year. The fishing was outstanding. The temps are high and the water is still cold, never got too warm this summer as far as water temps go. We caught average of 16" everyday with a couple 19-20" fish too.

I would think the lower salmon like it was mentioned and hells is a great quick float too, or if you are just looking to float you can always float out of challis and go down a few miles and camp ay campsites. I did that as a break over labor day and it was pretty great. Although the fishing wasn't great, I was still able to catch a buzz.

See ya downstream.
 

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I had forgotten about the Lower Salmon. That section mentioned is gorgeous (no whitewater though). If you're up for the drive I recommend it.
There is some WW at these lower levels. Demons Drop and the last drop above pine bar has flipped a boat or two. Now I'm not saying its hairy and all but there are some waves. It is a short streach but very relaxing and not rushed at all. That is important when there is only 12 hours of light. The salmon fishing is the best in Idaho in the streach. I can't remember how long that streach is, but it fills up a weekend nicely.
 
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