[MNichols]

If it's the same Anna Folks that's a guide for mild to wild that posted that, I've met her a couple years back, she'd likely know the take out from an upstream cliff, but then it is zuckerbook and anything posted there is suspect anyway, to me..

 

[scrtsqurrl]

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[tBatt]

Welp. Turns out that’s the actual ramp. So much as gotten eaten away that it went all the way up to the vegetation.

Woah scrtsqrrl beat me to it, I was just uploading that photo.

Holy fuck. Sounds like bullfrog or bust.

 

[MNichols]

Now that's pretty special. Thanks for sharing..

 

[MNichols]

Welp. Turns out that’s the actual ramp. So much as gotten eaten away that it went all the way up to the vegetation.

Woah scrtsqrrl beat me to it, I was just uploading that photo.

Holy fuck. Sounds like bullfrog or bust.

I thought Stateline was the only one open ? Hadn't heard anything since 2 weeks ago. Either one is a long way away..

 

[Shaft]

I thought Stateline was the only one open ? Hadn't heard anything since 2 weeks ago. Either one is a long way away..

Bullfrog executive ramp extension is open, houseboats are launching there...for now. No first hand experience but I check out the low water updates from GCNRA plus Yardsells took out there recently.

Just to add insult to injury:

 

[MNichols]

Bullfrog executive ramp extension is open, houseboats are launching there...for now. No first hand experience but I check out the low water updates from GCNRA plus Yardsells took out there recently.

Just to add insult to injury:

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Wow... Thanks for the update! Doesn't look like fun...

 

[craven_morhead]

Correct, as shown it's the actual ramp that got eaten away. We took out yesterday. One commercial rig managed to get their snout rig up on roller tubes up the hand-carry "ramp" ("ramp" in only the loosest sense of the word). It was impressive but it took a lot of roller tubes and a lot of cable. The PVC pipes we brought weren't going to cut it. Fortunately there were a number of private and commercial groups taking out so we were able to de-rig and hand-carry boats. Took us about 3 hours to help the commercial crew take out and then take out ourselves.

 

[jwhisenant]

We took out a trip on North Wash yesterday... watching that snout go up the cliff was insane.

We hand carried 3x16' rafts up – not pleasant, but not impossible.

Thanks to everybody for helping us get out effectively. Hope we were able to do a little in return and get outta y'all's ways

Only other thing to add is – watch that fast current through there! It is freaking tight!

Unbelievable that there is really no solution to this. Just brutal.

 

[MNichols]

We took out a trip on North Wash yesterday... watching that snout go up the cliff was insane.

We hand carried 3x16' rafts up – not pleasant, but not impossible.

Thanks to everybody for helping us get out effectively. Hope we were able to do a little in return and get outta y'all's ways

Only other thing to add is – watch that fast current through there! It is freaking tight!

Unbelievable that there is really no solution to this. Just brutal.

There's a solution to it, just add money. And an EIS, and the federal government...

Well... I guess there's no solution...

 

[richp]

Seems like the outfitters and NPS could engineer and fund a reverse version of the launch ramp up on the Middle Fork. Didn't some kind of cooperative arrangement contribute to the ramp at Pearce Ferry?

 

[jwhisenant]

Seems like the outfitters and NPS could engineer and fund a reverse version of the launch ramp up on the Middle Fork. Didn't some kind of cooperative arrangement contribute to the ramp at Pearce Ferry?

There is this raging debate... Everybody advocates extending the Hite ramp. My question is... why don't you leave the original Hite ramp high and dry, run a little gravel road to the river, and pour a new ramp below Hite. Seems hard to build a real ramp at North Wash, based on the perched river and all the sediment.

Idk, until then I feel like you either have boats you can break apart and carry up a cliff, or put enough hp behind your boat so you can bang over to Bullfrog in a few hrs.

 

[B4otter]

Two lanes of the North Ramp are now open at Bullfrog, according to latest info on NPS website.

It's 50 miles from North Wash to Bullfrog, you will be hard pressed to get there in "a few hours" regardless how much hp you use to push a barge. And the faster you go, the more wear and tear on your boats. Under ideal conditions, you MIGHT be able to average 6 mph pushing a barge, more realistic given wind and waves on "Lake" is around 5. Individual boats can go faster, but motoring is general is much harder on them than rowing. Hull speed is not what rafts are built for, although some are better than others (the more "cat-like" the faster, generally).

Unfortunately I don't think any solution for North Wash takeout is imminent, likely will take serious injury or some other disaster to focus attention...

 

[tBatt]

I’m curious what will happen first, an improved boat ramp or a lottery system.

 

[KlaustheK]

Is using Hite realistic? That would be much more convenient if you could drive near the river without getting stuck in the muck. Is the muck dry enough now that it could be driven on?

 

[MNichols]

Is using Hite realistic? That would be much more convenient if you could drive near the river without getting stuck in the muck. Is the muck dry enough now that it could be driven on?

Nope, not at all...

 

[Bootboy]

Is using Hite realistic? That would be much more convenient if you could drive near the river without getting stuck in the muck. Is the muck dry enough now that it could be driven on?

Only if you have your own personal bulldozer waiting at the takeout. It’s a wasteland of bottomless, tamarisk infested silt deposits, and massive, unstable cut banks.

 

[Whitewater Worthy Equip]

If only someone made rollers that could be installed in a rack system that could be adjusted to the current status of the ramp using rails from a railroad. Hum, I might know a guy.

 

[theusualsuspect]

Only if you have your own personal bulldozer waiting at the takeout. It’s a wasteland of bottomless, tamarisk infested silt deposits, and massive, unstable cut banks.

I tried to drive to the hite boat ramp this spring. It had concrete barriers placed across the road just passed the now closed gas station, couldn't get to the ramp.

 

[scrtsqurrl]

Don't plan to take out at North Wash this season.