Hey Brett, great to know you are still out there! I just looked at the flow and it is zero, so no go! Hello to Jamie and Brett B, are they still working as male ex dancers? Do you still have the Land Rover?Hey Mark!! Its Brett Piane. Nice to see you on here. I don't have any info on the upper gunny. I live in Boulder now, still hanging with Jamie Saer and Brett Butson, we hit the river a lot these days mostly ark but sometimes colorado and purdre. I would love to hook up for a float sometime!