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Hey folks!! I'm new to this forum. I live outside Durango CO....I'm going to buy a raft.....and I'm going to ask A TON of newbie questions!! (I'll use the search function first though). I'm looking forward to learning as much as possible here, please be patient. :D
 

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That's good because its been quite a while since someone posed a "what raft to buy?" question :).

Welcome to the Buzz

Other good ones are how long of oars should i be running?, do i drain my cooler? how many bays should i put in my frame?, who sits on their coolers?, and why do my oars seem to hit my knees? as well as does anyone have space on their (coveted river) permit for someone with severe bipolar disorder?

You shouldn't have to search much further than 6 weeks. There is a wealth of information on this site. Honestly i wish i would have researched and learned from others experience because i'm on my fourth boat before i've found total satisfaction

Remember -- you will never know where this hobby will take you. There is no right answer, only a right answer for right now!
 

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Greetings mr_diggs. I live in bayfield and would be happy to meet you and try to answer your questions. happy boating.
 

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THANKS GUYS!! Mania, I lived in Baytucky until 1995.....just moved back last year! I'm not going to expound on what initial gear I've chosen, I feel that stuff is easily researched. I'm here to learn how to make the most of the experience, even if I have to jump the fence and practice on LePlatt's pond (Mania knows).
 

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Hey Mr. Diggs...welcome to the awesome world that is river tripping. Hope your river tripping goes well. There's a sweet community around you...
 

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Welcome!
I'm also new to the forum, but an old cranky river rat. Glad to help where I can, but it's been a few seasons (OK it's been 30 years since my last GC trip) so my advice will likely be dated.
 

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I'd highly recommend taking a swift water rescue class ASAP. I'm fairly new and that was the best newbie advice I received. At the time it seemed like a lot, but it really gives you the background for how to deal with the situations that can arise on whitewater.
 

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I'd highly recommend taking a swift water rescue class ASAP. I'm fairly new and that was the best newbie advice I received. At the time it seemed like a lot, but it really gives you the background for how to deal with the situations that can arise on whitewater.
Sound advice from a newbie. You need to know what to do when the shit hits the fan. As well as learn how to minimize shit hitting the fan.
 

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Just want to let you know up front that rafting is highly addictive. It starts out by dominating your thoughts. Then your relationships get stressed. You blow all you money on cam straps. You'll end up face down on a beach with sand in places you wont admit to. Are you really prepared to go down that path. Cuz there is no one that can help you. You will only feel at home on the river and long for it when your gone!
 

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Nothing wrong with doing guide school come May, just to pick up a few tricks. I recommend training with SW whitewater, Mountain Waters or 4 corners as a personal preference.

Also I did my Swiftwater course with Aaron of south west rescue . It's on Pine creek near Vallecito and is a really dynamic place to learn. Anyways highly recommended, he's got classes starting April 23-25 and again on May 21-23.

Happy boating!
 

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Goto the Gear Talk Forum and look over 20+ pages of pics and discussions on raft/cat design on the RAFT PORN thread.

Set up a favorites where you save links to everything that's possible for your dream boat. {If you're married hide all these links under a Bookmark that's titled something she just hates when you want to TALK ABOUT THAT.}

Then go through most of the rest of the gear talk threads all the while saving links.

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Circular logic is fine if you start with what do I need as you journey from raft brand and size to how many bays etc and back again to the raft. Rinse and repeat for type of dry boxes, oars and some other stuff.
 

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Nothing wrong with doing guide school come May, just to pick up a few tricks. I recommend training with SW whitewater, Mountain Waters or 4 corners as a personal preference.

Also I did my Swiftwater course with Aaron of south west rescue . It's on Pine creek near Vallecito and is a really dynamic place to learn. Anyways highly recommended, he's got classes starting April 23-25 and again on May 21-23.

Happy boating!
Did the same class with Aaron a few years ago. Very good class and plenty accessible to me as a pudgy mid 40s private boater. Everyone else in my class was a guide or Durango Fire Rescue, but everyone was cool. Pine Creek is a great setting for the class.

Definitely buy/borrow a dry suit if you take the class. The water comes out of the dam just a few miles upstream and is very cold.
 

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Any training you can get will help. And don't be scared to get addicted; it's a good addiction! Oh, and hide this from the old lady? Naw, get her involved.I met my wife on the river, and once I got her cleaned up it was a pretty good thing. I mean, how else you gonna get your coffee delivered to whatever bush you end up under?
 

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Did the same class with Aaron a few years ago. Very good class and plenty accessible to me as a pudgy mid 40s private boater. Everyone else in my class was a guide or Durango Fire Rescue, but everyone was cool. Pine Creek is a great setting for the class.

Definitely buy/borrow a dry suit if you take the class. The water comes out of the dam just a few miles upstream and is very cold.
I think I was in the same class with you. Did yours just expire. We ended up taking the test together because he didn't have enough copies. If that was you, small world on the buzz.

-and ditto on the dry suit, it gets very cold!
 

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Thanks again guys! I live in Forest Lakes, so not too far from the Pine. If there are any Durango/Bayfield people that are interested in Rocky-Mountain-Rafts products, I have a group-buy of sorts in the works. As it stands, a 14ft raft would be about $1775. The warehouse is in Phoenix and I would have a friend store the boats in a garage until I drove down to pick them up (just a few $$ for gas).
 

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Just want to let you know up front that rafting is highly addictive. It starts out by dominating your thoughts. Then your relationships get stressed. You blow all you money on cam straps. You'll end up face down on a beach with sand in places you wont admit to. Are you really prepared to go down that path. Cuz there is no one that can help you. You will only feel at home on the river and long for it when your gone!
This is very good advise, that I wish somone had shared with me years ago. Being off the water is depressing.
 

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Just want to let you know up front that rafting is highly addictive. It starts out by dominating your thoughts. Then your relationships get stressed. You blow all you money on cam straps. You'll end up face down on a beach with sand in places you wont admit to. Are you really prepared to go down that path. Cuz there is no one that can help you. You will only feel at home on the river and long for it when your gone!
That is EXACTLY what happened to me! I'm headed into my third year and now I spend the off season researching rivers, studying flow data, snowpack data, reading forums...

I compulsively practice tying knots at my desk...

I've spent my extra $ buying cold water/weather gear to extend the early season because I can't wait until spring...

It took all my willpower not to load up and head for the Verde or Salt last week when they suddenly started to flow big...

Thousands of miles of river, just in the Southwest and I want to see them all, then the rest of the world, and I want to do all the really fun rapids over and over - this is my new (unattainable) life goal...

I don't know why.

Didn't see that coming - my wife is surprised as well... She's a good sport about it, although only because it's getting to her to...
 
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