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Springtime fantasies...

Has anyone paddled sections of the Muddy (Utah) other than the Chute section? My Trails Illustrated map shows 2 sections above the Chute, starting just south of I-70, 30 miles with the first section having some class "3". And 2 sections below the Chute of 5 miles and 22 miles. If you add in the 15 miles of the Chute section, there's 72 miles to be run. I'm thinking the top putin to the Chute takeout. Below the Chute it looks like it leaves the Swell and braids across flatland.

I wouldn't expect to camp in the Chute but are there nice camping sites in the sections above the Chute?

Is the class "3" runnable with an overloaded duck?

If you have run any of it above the Chute, what roads did you use for your shuttle?

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I ran the whole section that you are talking about 2 springs ago. The whole thing is awesome, its a bit of a stretch to call it class three... maybe in high water. If you want to do the whole thing just make sure that the water level is pretty high, we had to drag our boats for big sections going into Hanksville.

We actually put in just north of I-70, by maybe a quarter mile - though we hopped some fences to do that. Took out on a dirt road just before Muddy creek met the Dirty Devil.
 

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I ran the whole section that you are talking about 2 springs ago. The whole thing is awesome, its a bit of a stretch to call it class three... maybe in high water. If you want to do the whole thing just make sure that the water level is pretty high, we had to drag our boats for big sections going into Hanksville.

We actually put in just north of I-70, by maybe a quarter mile - though we hopped some fences to do that. Took out on a dirt road just before Muddy creek met the Dirty Devil.

Thanks. Good campsites? Do you remember the level?
 

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The best put-in is actually to take the dirt road just East of were Muddy crosses 70 and drive down to cut off the first 3-5 miles south of 70, it is kindof channelised up there and better to cut it off. Under 250, it can take 2 days to go from 70 to Hondu Arch and another day through the cute for 3 days total. If its 300 or above you can do the upper in 1 day and the chute in 1 day. There is epic camping the whole way above the chute. I have never floated past Hidden Splender into Hanksville but I've driven it and its pretty cool right after the chute but becomes quite braided. If you want to float down there, you may want to drive from the chute take-out and put back in on the Dirty Devil by Hanksville and float into Hite.
 

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The best put-in is actually to take the dirt road just East of were Muddy crosses 70 and drive down to cut off the first 3-5 miles south of 70, it is kindof channelised up there and better to cut it off. Under 250, it can take 2 days to go from 70 to Hondu Arch and another day through the cute for 3 days total. If its 300 or above you can do the upper in 1 day and the chute in 1 day. There is epic camping the whole way above the chute. I have never floated past Hidden Splender into Hanksville but I've driven it and its pretty cool right after the chute but becomes quite braided. If you want to float down there, you may want to drive from the chute take-out and put back in on the Dirty Devil by Hanksville and float into Hite.
Thanks C'don. Did you guys shuttle through the Swell or drive 70 to 24 and back in?
 

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Phil,

Check out the Utah book. They have beta on some section even above where Websta' and Craporadon are talking about, above I -70 and above the road to Ferron/Cottonwood/Huntingdon creeks.I recall something about it being really bony and having to break through massive spider webs,then when they were about fed up with it the boating got a little better and the scenery spectacular. Also ,some section they skip,lame boating and fences i think. You should have no trouble with any rapids ,other than having to drag if it is low.Duckies are the easiest boat to get in and out of .I think III is high for anything on Muddy but maybe right due to remoteness/committedness.
 

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Thanks guys. Logan, I'd like to borrow the book but as a guide book junkie I'd also like to get a copy. Is it still in print? Title?
 

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Thanks C'don. Did you guys shuttle through the Swell or drive 70 to 24 and back in?
It's not a bad shuttle, on 70 slightly East, there is a ranch exit that you take South. It parralel's 70 for a couple miles west then heads direct South. Then it's an hour or so of classic Hunter S Thompsonesque desert driving through the southern swell. Sort of mysterious roads in there but if your in the right mind state and just believe in yourself, you'll end up where you need to be.

It may not run this year, but we'll see. I once took my mom down at 100 cfs and it was slow going but not too much dragging. She's 65 and does'nt know how to swim. We dumped once at a hard corner but she was fine, I think she thought she was drowning until she just stood up and it was only waist deep. She even drank a Mojito out of her Bootie like a champ.

SUP with no fins is definitely the preferred craft. In a duckee you just get a bad case of the BIBS.
 

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Thanks guys. Logan, I'd like to borrow the book but as a guide book junkie I'd also like to get a copy. Is it still in print? Title?
"River Runner's Guide to Utah, and Adjacent Areas" by Gary C. Nichols. The copy I have is "revised and updated" as of 2002...so still a little outdated. There may be a newer version out there now, but I don't know. It has some pretty good beta. You are welcome to borrow it whenever.
 

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It's not a bad shuttle, on 70 slightly East, there is a ranch exit that you take South. It parralel's 70 for a couple miles west then heads direct South. Then it's an hour or so of classic Hunter S Thompsonesque desert driving through the southern swell. Sort of mysterious roads in there but if your in the right mind state and just believe in yourself, you'll end up where you need to be.
We were in the wrong state of mind or lacking self-confidence, because we got lost and ended up driving around the desert all day. The scenery is great though for sure.
 

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We were in the wrong state of mind or lacking self-confidence, because we got lost and ended up driving around the desert all day. The scenery is great though for sure.
Yeah, I'm concerned that if I get in my H. S. T. desert driving mind set I could spend more than a day shuttling... Course, I wouldn't care...


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