ok, so as I understand it the "montucky" name in the new tgr flick came from the fact that they were boating in montana and drinking whisky / burbon like they were in Kentucky. If you have the dvd version it explains it in the directors comentary. I know, I can't belive I've reached that level of winter time blues / paddling withdrawl / desperation to where I would watch the entire flick in the directors commentary but yes ive reached that point! also if you have access to the directors comentary they go pretty in depth about the paddler who was swallowed by that hole in cave falls norway, apparently the guy was under for 40 seconds or so. Can't wait for runnoff season, pray for snow in the droves! :wink: