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We're putting in on the MF Salmon in about a week, 1st time and I am super stoked!

Since its my 1st time, I have a question about water-
What is the water quality this time of year? is it full of debris?

I ask because I have a Katadyn Base Camp filter, but I'm not sure I want to count on it. Used it a bit, but for shorter trips w/less people. Makes it nice when you don't have to load a ton of water jugs. And I always have a plan "B" & a plan "C" (iodine/propane).


Just curious How it will hold up w/that kind of use. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Water quality this time of year will be excellent. Your gravity filter should work fine, but they are a bit slow, so you might want a few more filters if you have a full permit. You can get safe drinking water at Indian creek and flying B also.
 

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We use the Katadyn Base Camp filter all the time on the Middle Fork and Main Salmon. Works great. Filters a large volume in a reasonable amount of time. We can usually fill a 3 gallon water container in about 15 minutes or so. Hang it as high as possible. Beats pumping with a smaller filter.
A Middle Fork virgin!!!! You lucky dog. You'll love it. It's absolutely gorgeous. Make sure you stop for a soak at Sunflower and Loon. Refill water, ice, and get ice cream at the "B." And don't forget your fly rod ..... fishing is great.
have fun
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Normally the water quality is excellent, but after several years of wildfires and it being thunderstorm season, blowouts have been occurring in August. These cloud up the river for several days.

You can settle the water overnight with alum added to a bucket. That's the normal way of doing it before filtering on desert rivers.
 

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You can hike up to the ranch at Sheepeater and they'll fill you up on water and help you carry it for a few beers. (Super nice guys) There's also a spring just below waterfall creek. Hike toward the footbridge from the falls on the trail and you'll see a little trail down to the spring. Spring might be thin by mid summer. There's plenty of side tribs to fill up on.
 

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ultraviolet (UV)

Anyone ever use the ultraviolet devices to purify water? Can you zap the water as you use it? Looks quick and no need to carry a lot of water??? Anyone use one on extended river trips? I do not mean to hijack your post, hopping we can both use the information. Thanks.
 

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thanks for the info!

i'd be interested in the uv thing as well, never talked to anyone that has used one.
 

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Anyone ever use the ultraviolet devices to purify water? Can you zap the water as you use it? Looks quick and no need to carry a lot of water??? Anyone use one on extended river trips? I do not mean to hijack your post, hopping we can both use the information. Thanks.
We have used them on.......can't say which river. They are considered a mechanical device or something and cannot be used on the MF. Legally that is.

I have.......heard of some who used them on the MF. The "report" was that they worked exceptionally well. No one on 'that' trip had to carry water and they had as much as they needed at each camp.

So just make sure that the pump is tucked away. Especially if the rangers are out there.
I would assume you might just get a warning.
 

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Thank you Cravedog, I understand, that is the information I was looking for. Sounds like they work, I do not like to carry water. I have done a few river trips and never had a drink of water the whole trip, except for river water for morning coffee. ( beer, juice, gatoraid, JD, and did I mentioned beer) . About hundred dollars for a UV device, not bad, plus you can use it hunting, camping, etc. Cuts down on weight is a big, big plus.
 

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UV works great

The UV products are bomber, I used one while paddling out in Nepal, and never had a problem, even with some pretty sketchy water we were using. Nobody in our crew got sick, and they are super easy and take up little to no space. Just make sure that you carry spare batteries as that is the crux of most UV systems.... have a good trip!
 

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We have used them on.......can't say which river. They are considered a mechanical device or something and cannot be used on the MF. Legally that is.

I have.......heard of some who used them on the MF. The "report" was that they worked exceptionally well. No one on 'that' trip had to carry water and they had as much as they needed at each camp.

So just make sure that the pump is tucked away. Especially if the rangers are out there.
I would assume you might just get a warning.
what is the restriction against mechanical devices? Is this a battery issue? I've never heard of it before
 

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We're putting in on the MF Salmon in about a week, 1st time and I am super stoked!

Since its my 1st time, I have a question about water-
What is the water quality this time of year? is it full of debris?

I ask because I have a Katadyn Base Camp filter, but I'm not sure I want to count on it. Used it a bit, but for shorter trips w/less people. Makes it nice when you don't have to load a ton of water jugs. And I always have a plan "B" & a plan "C" (iodine/propane).


Just curious How it will hold up w/that kind of use. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
see ya on the rio! it's my first time to run MFS as well, although we attempted it in June the day it spiked... didn't put on.

can't wait to run it this time!

(i assume you're on AH's trip? bunch of frontrangers)
 

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what is the restriction against mechanical devices? Is this a battery issue? I've never heard of it before
Pumps and motors are not allowed. The only UV filter I saw had a small pump.
We used to have GC boaters show up with bilge pumps and 12V systems and be denied.

Apparently this same rule is being referenced. I have heard of one ranger being OK with it, and one making sure that the guy left it in his truck.
 

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So how long do you have to stir with one of these UV things to make a couple of gallons of water?
With the battery operated pump one that we, I saw....heard of........ dip some water in a bucket so it settles out any debris. Insert pump pickup and it would take about a minute per quart or a little less.

A couple times pumping was done right out of the river if the current and pickup were right.
 
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