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I have the week after next off and I am thinking of doing the lower Salmon. Can anyone give me any info on some of the better places to stop? With the levels between 4000-6000 CFS should I expect any big water, ir more technical rapids?

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call All River Shuttles and talk to Michelle. Great shuttle service located in white bird and she has info, maps, good solid ice, ECT.
 

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Here's some informative sites to check out. The BLM has a nice river guide that you can obtain or print out and make copies. At these flows some of the rapids disappear and others show up. The biggest issue is avoidance of rocks and the slower water flows mean that you will either float slowly or row a lot. Longer time on the water than earlier in the season. Snake Lake (River) can have strong upstream winds as the day heats up.

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BLM Info: Boater Guide - Hammer Creek to Heller Bar

Temperatures and weather: Climate Grangeville - Idaho and Weather averages Grangeville

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Good stuff amsrick. Been fumbling around for a week or so and have not found that good of beta on the camps etc thanks!

I too am thinking on putting a trip together for the 2nd or 3rd week in August for this section and have never done it before. I am wondering how many days most people spend doing it. I would like to do it in 3 but am unsure if that is possible or not? I possibly could get a 4th day off but 3 would be ideal. I'm not opposed to long river days... I actually prefer being on the boat and floating than sitting in camp anyways.

If targeting 3-4 days what is the best option for takeout? So far I have found the 4 options
1) jet up to Pittsburg from the confluence
Who is good to use and how much does this typically cost?
2) pack a motor and motor down river to heller
What HP motor are people using, I've heard 15hp works but can I go smaller? I'd probably have 2-3 boats strung together.
3) take out at eagle creek and use eagle creek road
Just how nasty is this road? Sounds like it can get tight in spots and would leave racing stripes on your truck?
4) row snake lake
Not really an option for my time constraint.

Also I would be floating it over a weekend Saturday Sunday Monday... would the longer river days make it hard for me to find a camp? I'm just not sure how crowded it can get.

Thanks everyone!


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I would like to do it in 3 but am unsure if that is possible or not?

Yes you can do it in 3 longs days from hammer to heller. If you want to save time put in a pine bar

If targeting 3-4 days what is the best option for takeout? So far I have found the 4 options
1) jet up to Pittsburg from the confluence
Way too much $ for my budget. Plus not the best drive out but closer to boise.

2) pack a motor and motor down river to heller
I have used 5hp and 3 boats just fine.

3) take out at eagle creek and use eagle creek road
Its a nice road these days. But its would take over 3 hours to get to Winchester.

4) row snake lake
I do it all the time. Just get below egale creek or on the snake on last nite.

Also I would be floating it over a weekend Saturday Sunday Monday... would the longer river days make it hard for me to find a camp?
Finding a camp on that weekend will be nut ball. My rule is to have a camp by 2pm! Plan to share. Its gona be like Walmat on Black Friday. No shit!

I'm just not sure how crowded it can get.

It will be a constant stream of Jet boats and floaters. above pine bar. Below pine bar will limit the jet boats to egale creek. It will be an ant farm. Boat to boat traffic. you will not be more than 1/4 from people at any time! When it gets like this I put in at bentz and avoid hammer.
 

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thanks! how long does it take you with the 5 hp and 3 boats for snake lake?

like Walmart on black Friday... yuck!

sounds like i should try for the 4 day and be sure to have a camp earlier in the day.

thanks for the info dirtbag.
 

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I have the week after next off and I am thinking of doing the lower Salmon. Can anyone give me any info on some of the better places to stop? With the levels between 4000-6000 CFS should I expect any big water, ir more technical rapids?

Thanks.

Kyle
Its all good. Lots of beaches. No real great hikes or ranches or creeks to hike. No real difficult drops. Just follow the boat in front of you! There is a mandatory log jump at the entrance of the green canyon. If you don't jump not only will you miss the best drop of the trip. Bad karma will follow you down the river.

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how long does it take you with the 5 hp and 3 boats for snake lake?

5 hours of water time from eagle to hammer. But there are a number of places that you can fire up and make time. IE just below demon. Everything under snowhole.

like Walmart on black Friday... yuck!

Yep! sorry..

sounds like i should try for the 4 day and be sure to have a camp earlier in the day.

IDK. People are usually friendly. most of us know that we will be sharing camps. There are tons of small beaches so if you are not picky and only need a small beach? I once put in at hammer at 3500 cfs and got to white house. The next day I floated to heller and got in at dark.
 

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Weekday trips are commonly less crowded as more folks are working. The old saying the early bird gets the worm is pretty true down on the river. Getting to the river as early as you can puts you in the best place to get campsites and avoids the "Oh, Gosh Darn, we have to keep rowing to find a campsite syndrome." The last day on the Snake can be long, the further you go on the next to last day the better off you are although the takeout won't be like Walmart on payday. As mentioned above the river flows at a much lower speed than at higher flows. There can be a lot of rowing between rapids.
 

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I'm running a Sunday-Friday trip. How's the crowd usually during the week? Please say not-so-black-friday-at-walmart level.
1/5 of what it would be on the weekends. Most of the crowd will be more commercial, less jet boats, and in front of you. You should find some peace and quiet.
 

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Weekday trips are commonly less crowded as more folks are working. The old saying the early bird gets the worm is pretty true down on the river. Getting to the river as early as you can puts you in the best place to get campsites and avoids the "Oh, Gosh Darn, we have to keep rowing to find a campsite syndrome." The last day on the Snake can be long, the further you go on the next to last day the better off you are although the takeout won't be like Walmart on payday. As mentioned above the river flows at a much lower speed than at higher flows. There can be a lot of rowing between rapids.
I've been prepping for Snake lake a bit, hopefully I still have arms by the end of it.
 

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I've been prepping for Snake lake a bit, hopefully I still have arms by the end of it.
The snake lake really is not that bad if you are off the river by 3pm. You don't want to fight the wind. The current is not that bad and the view is great! The salmon lake below the South fork of the salmon is worse IMHO.
 

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So would this be a good run for the mini max or should I bring something bigger?

Kyle
Not alot of action to be had. I push 16 feet of rubber and it feels small on the river. I'd do 18' if I had the boat. I have seen 20+ footers. Bring shade!
 

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Not alot of action to be had. I push 16 feet of rubber and it feels small on the river. I'd do 18' if I had the boat. I have seen 20+ footers. Bring shade!
I used to guide a fleet of 12' oar rafts, and they were quite adequate at any flow under 10K. We did it many, many times that way without any accidents.
 

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The shade tarp and the sand mat are going no matter what boat I take! The main issue is that this will be a small trip. Just me, and maybe one or two others in kayaks. If there is a "we" we are going to want to fit everything and a dog into one vehicle. If we end up with three I will definitely bring the bigger boat, but with two peoplethe small boat is easier to deal with. If I go solo it is really the only option.

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