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Last night, Sunday July 12th, me and a bunch of friends (fellow Poudre guides) had planned to raft into the concert at the Mish. We figured we would raft in, listen to a few songs, hang out on the raft and have a few beers. When we arrived we pulled into the eddy right near the stage. A few of us got off the raft to say hey to some friends. We were not there longer than 2 minutes before we were asked to leave. We knew this was a possibility so we were not surprised. However, security and the owner Robin were exceedingly irate and rude. We paddled to the eddy on river left about 30 yards down. Security shined lights on us and we debated what we wanted to do. We needed to get the boat reorganized and decide where we would paddle or pull out.

Someone mentioned that they thought there were rocks being thrown. A few small stones hit the raft. I jokingly said "if they are going to throw rocks I will out on my hemet." Thank goodness I did because 60 seconds later a rock about the size of an egg hit me directly on top of my head and left a good ding on my helmet. Another good sized one hit one of the other girls in the raft. At that point we became really nervous and started paddling downstream. Security followed us below guide hole and another verbal altercation ensued.

Were we trying to see the show for free? Yeah. Is this trespassing? Yeah. We were told he owns the land on river left, but we believed we were off his property line when we pulled over river left. However the response was really extreme and unwarranted. We left when asked and that should have been the end of it. The security there seems to be a lot of meat head d-bags looking for trouble.

Moral of the story: Fuck the Mish, I know we will never go there again and will not recommend it to anyone else. If you plan on paddling in this season I recommend a full face mask helmet and a paintball gun.
 

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I thought the kayak community was boycotting mish? I heard there was BS treatment from the owners last year toward some boaters.
 

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Yes the Gnarrows race.. the reason I will never go to the mish again..
Sounds like an assult via rocks is reason to press charges against those coke heads..
On a lighter note.. Rivers at 2.9 Whens the Gnarrows race.. should be 2.5 soon
 

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I have no love for the Mish. I've been there a few times in the past and the employees have always seemed "inconvenienced." Even if you were trespassing that doesn't give them the right to chuck rocks at you. Next time, anchor right in the middle of the river, dig out your Marshal full stack and start jamming while the concert is going on. They may own both sides of the river but they don't own the middle!
 

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thowing rocks can actually be assault with a deadly weapon. I think if it actually hits you, it's battery.

but was it security? it might have been some of the idiots attending the show. otherwise, I hear a lawsuit in the works.
 

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Fuck the mish. We were there last year after the concert with tons of people and those d-bags pretty much destroyed a mellow after party. The security is totally over the top coked out meat heads at best.
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one thing I noticed last time i ws up there: the crowd that ws showing up at the Mish was a pretty skanky looking group. It occured to me then that there might be some fights and violence at that place.

I think there might be a need for aggressive and tough security to keep the peace, although if it was security throwing rocks at boaters, they need to have charges pressed.
 

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I also noticed driving by that they have 2 to 3 miles all blocked off along both sides of the road before and after the Mish, with their security.

How much of that is public property I would like to know? Because they shouldn't be able to force you not to park there if they don't owe, and it was a lot of mileage....

Have you called the sheriff about the rocks I think that is total BS!
 

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I called the sheriff tonight, they said they would look into it. Hopefully they will make a call up there and tell them to calm down.

We also wondered how they blocked off all that road. Isn't Dead Deer Forest Service land?

It was for sure security that threw the rocks... After they chased us down I went up and talked to them and they never denied it and even apologized (sort of).
 

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A long time ago, boaters were welcome at the Mish, seems that has changed over the years.

I believe the canyon would be better off without the Mish and the crowd it attracts.
I won't camp in the canyon on weekends with concerts.
 

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I have advocated removing the Mishawaka eyesore from the canyon for years. Without getting into the owner's long time antics, I'll just say "I don't approve."

Thankfully, I haven't spent a dime at the Mish since 1998. I stopped after seeing behavior by the owner and managers that I found inexcusable. That decision has been reinforced many times in the subsequent years.
 

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they blocked the pull offs on the road with red cones and yellow tape, and most of those pull offs had the security guards watching over it with their fake black shirts and flashlights making sure no one parked there.
when you talk to the sheriff next, as if that's legal for them to do with road's pull offs, see if they need a permit or something, or if they even have any right to block public land like that?
good luck!
 

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Is there another bar/tavern in the canyon for boaters to chill?

If I ever go to the mish again I will be hammered already and I will only be in there long enough to puke on the bar and get kicked out by their wannabe security chodes.

here is the thread about last year's Gnarrows after party and the resulting boater's ban on that dump known as the mish...
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f11/narrows-race-carnage-20987.html
 

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Getting hit in the head with a rock by a security guard is a serious issue. You need to write a letter to law enforcement and ask for a formal reply. I know that place is a constant pain in the ass for them as it is.
 

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I would DEFINITELY follow up on this. Rocks are inexcusable, beers, maybe not.... Seriously, who throws rocks at people?
 

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awesome!

Is there another bar/tavern in the canyon for boaters to chill?

If I ever go to the mish again I will be hammered already and I will only be in there long enough to puke on the bar and get kicked out by their wannabe security chodes.

here is the thread about last year's Gnarrows after party and the resulting boater's ban on that dump known as the mish...
http://www.mountainbuzz.com/forums/f11/narrows-race-carnage-20987.html
Well said.. Well said.. I would provide the bottle of Jack to see that happen...
Fun day yesterday..
Patrick
 

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I still think Adrian should have thrown that son of a B-st--d in the drink, after spraying leif's gifted and sealed beer over the bar and some boaters burgers. full bar of gnarrow boaters would have been a good brawl. hard to knock out 15 plus boaters when only a hand full. we could have layin the biggest mish asswhopping of all history. finish them off by making them swim.
 

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Anywhere else this would be a good way to get yer bar burned down.

Of course it is probably insured for twice its worth and the trash would then retire to Aspen.


Last night, Sunday July 12th, me and a bunch of friends (fellow Poudre guides) had planned to raft into the concert at the Mish. We figured we would raft in, listen to a few songs, hang out on the raft and have a few beers. When we arrived we pulled into the eddy right near the stage. A few of us got off the raft to say hey to some friends. We were not there longer than 2 minutes before we were asked to leave. We knew this was a possibility so we were not surprised. However, security and the owner Robin were exceedingly irate and rude. We paddled to the eddy on river left about 30 yards down. Security shined lights on us and we debated what we wanted to do. We needed to get the boat reorganized and decide where we would paddle or pull out.

Someone mentioned that they thought there were rocks being thrown. A few small stones hit the raft. I jokingly said "if they are going to throw rocks I will out on my hemet." Thank goodness I did because 60 seconds later a rock about the size of an egg hit me directly on top of my head and left a good ding on my helmet. Another good sized one hit one of the other girls in the raft. At that point we became really nervous and started paddling downstream. Security followed us below guide hole and another verbal altercation ensued.

Were we trying to see the show for free? Yeah. Is this trespassing? Yeah. We were told he owns the land on river left, but we believed we were off his property line when we pulled over river left. However the response was really extreme and unwarranted. We left when asked and that should have been the end of it. The security there seems to be a lot of meat head d-bags looking for trouble.

Moral of the story: Fuck the Mish, I know we will never go there again and will not recommend it to anyone else. If you plan on paddling in this season I recommend a full face mask helmet and a paintball gun.
 

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Jen, Nicely done. I feel we should follow up with a few letters to the Mish and the Forest Service requesting a formal reply as suggested earlier in the post. Even two days later I'm still fired up about egg and tennis ball rocks flying through the dark at a boat with women in it. To clarify, the rocks were thrown when we were far downstream, out of the deck lights, river left. Serious injury could have occured. I think a group of boaters should try it, not touching shore or river bottom and see what the reaction is. Their reaction was completely unwarrented, a polite request would have worked as we were not looking for a fight. But now I'm pissed. I think everybody who reads these posts make the effort to spread the word about the Mish treats boaters and members of the river community. Thanks
 
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