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I'm just curious what people are using for IK paddles. I have been using the NRS PTK but recently snapped a blade so I'm in the market for a new paddle. from what I can see there are not a lot of options in the length needed for an IK. What do people seem to like the best? Opinions? Thanks
 

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Because I already had a 230cm paddle for my touring kayak (24" wide), I just kept using that when I got an IK (Hyside Padillac tandem, 40" wide); I think it worked fine. I also used it when I got an Aire Lynx (37" wide); seemed fine. I recently got a 220 to use with a narrower sea kayak (22" wide) and find it works well with the Lynx (have not tried it yet with the wider Hyside).
I am not saying shorter would not work (better?); just reporting my experience.
 

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Forgot to mention that the 220cm paddle has blades designed for high angle sea kayak paddling -- this means that the blade is a bit larger than a low angle touring paddle -- so it grabs more water and so is a bit more like a WW blade. I know that Werner will custom make a WW paddle (with strong WW blade) to a longer length -- others may chime in on that option.
Blade probably depends on how aggressive your IK paddling is going to be and length on which IK (for example, Air Force vs. Hyside).
 

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I used a Carlisle day tripper 230cm with my Trib Strike.The length was fine. I dont think Carlisle makes these any more.After several years of abuse it broke at the site where those metal buttons slot in at the joint, the blades never gave me a problem. I got another similar but used one and its doing fine.
 

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i dunno randy...
i'm used to a 230, and the last time i used a 220 i felt a difference.
my hyside paddilac's got big tubes and i'm way taller and way fatter than you... just sayin the difference was noticable...

i use a 230cm nrs ptr. the blades braek. it happens. the 2peice version isn't much better. blades break and the take-apart system breaks too. 2piece becomes 3piece ya know.

but why have werner make you a longer shaft of one of their standard paddle. the way i see it, i'd rather break a nrs-ptr every year or 2, and only pay $60 for it instead of shelling out for a $300 werner.

i'm in the midst of this dilema right now, and i think i'm gonna get another ptr230. not a breakdown this time tho.
 

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Last spring I was in the same boat, and I found a thread about this same topic from a couple of years ago. I tried searching for it now, but the computer is running slow, and didn't turn it up.

Anyway, as a result I got a pair of 215 Werner Tybees. I have used them this summer and like them quite a bit. At $120 ea, they didn't break the bank. I use them with my blue Lynx II and the blonde (yellow blades) earned her the name Smurfette.
 

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i dunno randy...
i'm used to a 230, and the last time i used a 220 i felt a difference.
my hyside paddilac's got big tubes and i'm way taller and way fatter than you... just sayin the difference was noticable...

i use a 230cm nrs ptr. the blades braek. it happens. the 2peice version isn't much better. blades break and the take-apart system breaks too. 2piece becomes 3piece ya know.

but why have werner make you a longer shaft of one of their standard paddle. the way i see it, i'd rather break a nrs-ptr every year or 2, and only pay $60 for it instead of shelling out for a $300 werner.

i'm in the midst of this dilema right now, and i think i'm gonna get another ptr230. not a breakdown this time tho.
But you have to paddle with that heavy POS. You paddle a lot Ben - treat yourself. :)
 

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i used a Werner Powerhouse for years and loved it but had to sell it because i needed a breakdown to pack and take with me when I moved to Asia. You dont need an IK specific paddle unless you are lazy. Just lean a little bit into each stroke, not only will you discover that a regular hardshell paddle works great but that extra little lean will help your bracing and strength of each stroke
 

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I used to paddle my strike with my regular hardshell paddle when I forgot to pack my IK one.Its not too bad if you are running shallow mank, but immediately becomes noticeable in deeper pushier water.Its definitely more tiring using a short paddle even if its lighter.
 

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Its definitely more tiring using a short paddle even if its lighter.
Because you're actually paddling and using your torso, not just sitting back and steering.

I still say a 200cm kayak paddle is best for most IK paddlers in most IKs, but to each his own...
 

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This would be a great discussion to have in an IK forum. C'mon "Low head dams!"
I agree! Why not?!? Lots of IK specific conversations lately along with a growing # of threads.

I used a few different paddles this year. This year I started using a cheap 200cm kayak paddle and it made me "finesse" use current more as opposed to the big 220cm NRS paddle I was first using where I'd just power through stuff. Also used a 210 NRS all feel a little different, they all work, it comes down to what you like. With the shorter paddle I was engaging core more than arm/lats strength. I think of it like longer paddle longer stroke more power to move form point a to point b faster. Shorter paddle still has plenty power to move punch through and you "guide" the IK. I like a 200-210 it took a day to get used to not having the 220. IK tube size also factors in a bit as to how much paddle is in the water.
 

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Don't go too short..200 is pushing it...started out with 230 -240 sea kayak type paddles they gave ducky'ers in the 90's actually ran some good shit just fine..then those Carlysle symmetrical blades( sucks) 220ish....went to hardshell paddles 198 ,200,202 ,205 etc,better for playing and manky technical stuff,not as easy to brace or power through stuff... I take two breakdowns on trips ( cuz they're what I got ) a Werner 4 PC 2O2 and some old school but very solid 2 PC 215. ...I fiind myself liking the beefy power face and longer paddle better...210 would be perfect...talking for a 34/36 " wide boat....do you think you need a longer paddle if your tall or short -long armed or short armed?
 

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I have either a 220 or 215 and want a 205. But I don't actually seem to be getting the IK out lately. I need to change that.

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197cm.

If you are in a Force, go shorter. If you are in a Hyside, go longer.

220cm/230cm, IMO have no place on the river unless yer a turkey leg eatin' schlitz swilling' tuber. ;)

Seriously though, the shorter paddle is vastly more agile and you have much quicker fine tune strokes close to the bow with a short paddle. If you use C-strokes, dufeks, or really any linked strokes at all, you want a shorter paddle.

If you feel like you can't hit your line without the power of a 230cm paddle, you are over muscling your strokes and might be compensating for making line adjustments too late, or sitting too far back in the boat.

I don't ever use a longer than 197 cm paddle, and I almost never paddle harder than about 70%. I ain't got a problem missing my lines, not on 200 fpm 100 cfs, and not on 80 fpm 8,000 cfs.
 

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Alright,was looking at my fine collection of paddles and came up with some questions.Why don't paddles have the length printed on them somewhere? Why doesn't Werner have at least a model name or serial # somewhere on the paddle?You go to their site and they have pictures of models and descriptions but most of them are so similar it is impossible to tell what your blade is compared to the photo.The other brands I have ( Prijon and Ainsworth) at least have model names,neither of my Werners do_One is a 4pc so maybe only one WW blade style(?)...just semi - bitching ,seems they could label them better without much hassle or cost.....
 

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Rainbowave 210 made by Mykl Messer. Can't believe I ever used a plastic paddle - this is another world. Have moved to wood for non-inflatable kayaking too.

Great guy and craftsman.

Have fun
 

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My 2 cents…

I’m 5’8” and used my old hardshell paddles to IK. One is a 193 bent shaft and the other is a 197. Both worked, but would hit my hands on the tubes a lot. Just ordered a Werner Stikine 220 and it is awesome. The extra length is nice to have and the smaller blade size makes for fast paddle strokes when trying to catch a wave. Bracing is easier as well.
 
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