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So next year myself and my lady have are joining in a Grand trip during mid October. I'll bring my dry suit, but she is unsure if a new dry suit is a necessity.

So first question for the buzzards. For a mid October trip how much have you worn, or wish you worn a dry suit?

2nd: For the ladies, what features have made the difference in a dry suit for you? Specifically I have been trying to compare different relief zipper designs. I want something that is comfortable that isn't an ordeal every time ya gotta visit river.

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One of my friends took hers last Oct. and really was happy to have it. She is not a cold weather boater, and it was a total game changer.
Not that Oct. is that cold, but something to be said for being warm comfortable, and happy!
 

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So next year myself and my lady have are joining in a Grand trip during mid October. I'll bring my dry suit, but she is unsure if a new dry suit is a necessity.

So first question for the buzzards. For a mid October trip how much have you worn, or wish you worn a dry suit?

2nd: For the ladies, what features have made the difference in a dry suit for you? Specifically I have been trying to compare different relief zipper designs. I want something that is comfortable that isn't an ordeal every time ya gotta visit river.

Thanks.
Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it. Especially should she have an "Out of boat experience".. Kokatat is what I bought my wife, with the full zip down rear seat, she loves it. Make sure to get some high top water boots for her as well, you won't regret it.
 

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We did a 24 day trip with an Oct 21 put on last year We had perfect weather with no rain or wind! But the water is cold coming out of the bottom of the dam and there are long stretches most every day of no sun in the canyon. Our ladies wore drysuits every day all day. They even gave them names. The rest of us wore drysuits for the big rapid days at least. You may experience the high flow experiment, usually around Nov 5 start as we did. A drysuit is insurance for running Lava at 35,000- 40,000 cfs.
Don't leave home without one!
 

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So next year myself and my lady have are joining in a Grand trip during mid October. I'll bring my dry suit, but she is unsure if a new dry suit is a necessity.

So first question for the buzzards. For a mid October trip how much have you worn, or wish you worn a dry suit?

2nd: For the ladies, what features have made the difference in a dry suit for you? Specifically I have been trying to compare different relief zipper designs. I want something that is comfortable that isn't an ordeal every time ya gotta visit river.

Thanks.
General consensus seems dry suit. I did an October 6th launch when I went and rarely wore more than a swimsuit. It was hot enough I couldn't even contemplate putting on gear. I also swam regularly in the river at camp so I'm not afraid of the cold.

When I was trying to get my wife into more of the spring trips all it took was one time of trying to get the gasket over her head and she said F this thing. Not going to happen I would rather be cold.

So has she used dry tops? I would at least show her what needs to happen to get in one. I wish I had a one piece but right now I have dry bibs and a semi dry top, meaning the soft neoprene gasket at the neck but still gaskets on the sleeve.

I love because when I am hot I can peel the top but then slap it back on when we hit the rapids. That might work for you as well. Only she can guide you, but the two piece isn't a bad solution either.
 

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If this won't be a lifetime purchase, consider renting a drysuit.
If she'll get frequent use in the coming years, I also love my Kokatat.


I've heard the drop seats are a pain for lady kayakers, but they seem to be a popular feature for lady rafters.
 

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The Kokatat drop seat with the neoprene neck (semi dry suit) has been a huge hit with my wife and other friends.
 

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You're talking about a $600 (or $300 rental) piece of outerwear that rolls up to the size of a canteloupe, weighs about 2 lbs, and that can make all the difference in terms of whether someone has a great time on the trip of a lifetime, or is cold and miserable for 3 weeks and gradually comes to hate the person who brought here on the trip. This is a no-brainer - get the dry suit.
 

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Totally agree with carve dog evaluation of latex neck gasket. We are lifetime kayakers used to dry tops. Agree that the fit in the neck gasket is crucial.
Us boatmen that row all day have totally different needs than a raft passenger getting splashed in the shade, especially if it's your lady.
 
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