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Anyone have any flow predictions? Gore gets pretty bony below 1400. I haven't been keeping an eye on colorado levels. Is Gore higher because the whole state needs water, or lower because reservoirs are empty?
 

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Anyone have any flow predictions? Gore gets pretty bony below 1400. I haven't been keeping an eye on colorado levels. Is Gore higher because the whole state needs water, or lower because reservoirs are empty?
Wait, you're worried about Gore being below 1400?

 

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Augmentation plans are already in effect to maintain flows at Dotsero at 1250 cfs, mostly through releases from Green Mountain, Wolford and William Fork. I don't think we're going to see more water than what's in there now.
 

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Gore Canyon Summer 2012

Answering question of 1400 CFS. 1400 CFS is meaty and above river companies commercially recommended water level. Optimal levels are around 1000 CFS and we have run several commercial trips this summer already in the 840-900 CFS range. I plan on running the race if water levels are above 700 CFS with approval. There is no way to determine whether our water levels will stay at the 800-900 CFS range through August. Let's hope for the best.
 

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Spencer, that little trip you were involved with was known to be low water. I never claimed that it would be a good flow. I claimed that it would be better than the narrows.

1600 is optimal for Gore, isn't it? I thought 1400 was the transition between medium and low. Well, the wetter the better. I'm sure it will be fun no matter what. Fingers crossed for high water on race day.
 

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Leif,

Why does matter to you if Gore is above 1400cfs for the race? Higher flows won't make you place any better. You race in a short boat.
 

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Higher flows mean that I don't have to paddle so hard. Also I have been doing a lot of high water paddling this season, so maybe I would have an advantage.

Plus, I'm not racing just to win (although... this could be the year). The more fun the run is, the more fun the race will be.
 

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expect flows around 900 cfs +/- 200 cfs

Leif,

To answer your original post in this thread, I would estimate that flows will be somewhere between 700 cfs and 1100 cfs, with the most likely flow being between 800 and 900 cfs. I am basing this guess on the data from the 2002 season which was the most similar season to this one in regards to snowpack/snowmelt/flows. View attachment USGS Surface Water data for USA: USGS Surface-Water Daily Statistics.pdf

In 2002, the highest flow was around 886 cfs.

In response to your statement about below 1400 cfs being "bony". I would have to say that it is all relative. Above 1400 or 1600 cfs could be considered the beginning of "medium" flows, and above 3000 cfs might be considered "high" water for kayaks that are just running the river. However, in relation to holding the Gore Canyon Race, these parameters do not apply. The Gore Canyon Race is an event that includes kayaks and rafts. 1400 - 1500 cfs is the maximum flow that the permit/insuring agents will allow for the race to be staged. Above 1500 cfs running the canyon in a raft, and in my opinion, racing in a kayak is considerably more difficult. Carnage at these levels is much more probable and swims could be disastrous.

In addition, in all but the higher than average snowpack years, flows above 1500 cfs are no longer that common.

If a 800 - 900 cfs Gore Race level is not that much "fun" for you, perhaps you would have more fun on the Poudre River on Aug 18th. The flow on the Poudre should be awesome.

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Sweet, should be good times.

I've only done the race twice so far. One time we had like 1400, and the other time we had something a lot lower. I thought the 1400 year was more fun. Can't wait for this year's race, though.
 

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And the SUP'ers with any kind of decent ability will race gore too i assume
 
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