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regional styles

Nice -

as someone who hasn't got out of our area much at all, i'm way into checking out these regional differences and will keep my eye out for the states series.

this reminds me of a book i've read for climbers, called "American Rock" - an awsome read, if you've traveled much. basically, it detailed each climbing hub, and the history/type of climbing in each area. the premise of the book (as i saw it) was that the regional type of rock had a fundamental influence into the local style/ethics that developed in each area. i wonder if any kind of book exists for kayaking, or even if the question is relavant for kayaking?

have different regions brought about different styles? ethics? maybe the first question is "are there different styles/ethics" then, if the answear is yes, you could ask if they are regional differences.

are there more ways to climb a rock than descend a river?
 

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great porn to go with my morning java and dam funny. paddling with rich grommits with cameras on their heads, man thats funny. thanks
 

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Poop talkin

There is no need for any shit talkin. All you have to do is look at the state that produced the best guide book (out of any guide book ever made on any subject) and you will learn the state with the most goods. I just wish LVM would have shown some Colorado love and found a better looking guy to interview. I mean come on he looks like the offspring frpom LOTSA and lifes mom...
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lol, nice try
 

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Everyone knows the Cali guide is worthless because there aren't any pictures. Remember, most paddlers don't know how to read (especially those home-schooled southeast inbreds). Them NW prep boys just pay someone to read to them as they sip their double macchiato chai's and the Calibrahs are just too stoned all the time to care. They just look at the pictures and go if it looks fun.

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i'm way into checking out these regional differences
Biggest difference between here any most other regions is other regions have water. I mean it. Water almost year around. We have tons of good shit but it only goes 3 month of the year (on a good year at that). Otherwise, the rest of the time its road trip to poach some goods from those stoners in california. Cali is sick.
 

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whoa, i almost missed this entertaining thread .. been busy kayaking.


you guys are hilarious though. 'specially you, pete. wish i had more time to think up snarky shit about how rad my home zone is .. but i gotta get my work done so i can enjoy yet another 3-day weekend of back-to-back waterfalls & splashy Ashlu goodness. you guys wouldn't like it here anyway .. too cold, too rainy, too much vegetation, too much water in the runs, etc. the holes are big here .. not fun.


BTW, nice "dig me!" fishing portrait in the creeking gallery -- guess that's what it's come to. then again, it IS mid-summer (read: season over) in Colo, after all. now you only have, what, 3 months til the blue ice forms a "run" at keystone & loveland, & then it's -- yaaaay! -- ski season for the next 7 months!

suckers
 

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hi

Lets not loose sight that no matter where we live North West, South East, Cali, Co. It could be worse.. It could be Kansas.. Or you could be stuck in BERLIN Germany like I am for the next 10 LONG white waterless months..
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It could be WAY worse. TG just tries to bum us out since he lives in the PNW. Pretty much the PNW has a longer season, and a few places on the east coast have a longer season (but who would wanna live there). That's about it. Even the motherland of CA has a limited season. Sick boating, but the runs happening in April are about 10 hrs away from the runs happening in August. Plus you have to live in CA. Within a 10 hour radius we have boating from April-August too.

One day I'll probably move to PNW, run the shit year-round and in my spare time talk trash about CO. Until then...glad I'm not in Kansas.
 

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Alright, I usually stay quiet on these not-planning-to-go-kayaking threads, but its time that someone pointed out that the CO kayaking season IS NOT 3 MONTHS LONG. I paddled until November last year and started again in March. Show of hands- who didn't have fun at Gore last weekend?...

That's what I thought.

The season here is 8 months if you want it to be and the skiing is pretty kick-ass the rest of the time. I know the PNW kicks ass but the season here is pretty good too if you are willing to make a little effort. Paddling in the snow is actually kinda fun. Quit your bitchin people- the season is not over.
 

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I live in the PNW but I don't shit talk about the CO boating. There are goods everywhere, I just feel bad for folks that have a higher Drive to Boating ratio.

The thing I don't get is why the PNW is so much different of a culture than the east coast. Do you have alot of Open Boaters in CO? We have hardly any and I can't remember the last time I saw an open boat on a run in WA. What about wood paddles? No one up here uses em, well maybe like 1 or 2 folks. But from my understanding its the other way around in the east.

So what about in CO, open boats? wood paddles?

Am I missing the true roots of the sport or did they forget to upgrade?
 

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So what about in CO, open boats? wood paddles?
i'll occasionally see an open boat but not many wood paddles, at least on the runs i do. those that have them are originally from the SE, or at least that's been my experiance. i was told that owning a wooden paddle in the SE is kind of like a rite of passage: when you know how to boat, you get one.
 

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the rocks are too sharp for wood paddles in CO... and too sharp for the unskilled.
 

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depends on what you like

if you like big slides, waterfalls, mean holes, epic whitewater for days on end coupled with the most amazing scenery of you life, california is the way to go.

if you want to wake up at noon kayak til 9pm and then go out for beers, CO is what's up.

if you want to chase rain for 2 years until you finally get on an epic 1st D, head to AZ

you want consistent gnar with bomber locals head to Udaho

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as far as shit talking...
-cali doesn't even know what a guide book is,
-co needs to get more than a 4 drop park and huck,
-arizona needs to stop bragging about how amazing the water was in the 1970's it's f'ing 2007
-and i've never been to Udaho because everyone runs the same damn thing OVER AND OVER

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with that said, kayaking is the shit and i don't care where i am if i'm in my boat above a drop
 

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Ya know,Colorado sucks, especially the southwest corner of the state. The paddling sucks, the mountain biking sucks, the skiing sucks, the fishing sucks,the hunting sucks, the sunrise's sucks, the sunset's sucks, the beer sucks, the 300 days of sunshine a year suck. The mountains really suck. Everything about Colorado sucks. For those so inclined, keep on dissing and hating and leave us to our poor pitiful delusional (delusional about how good we think we have it) life.

Suckers
P.S. Yes, this is sarcasm. Peace.
 

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Ya know,Colorado sucks, especially the southwest corner of the state. The paddling sucks, the mountain biking sucks, the skiing sucks, the fishing sucks,the hunting sucks, the sunrise's sucks, the sunset's sucks, the beer sucks, the 300 days of sunshine a year suck. The mountains really suck. Everything about Colorado sucks. For those so inclined, keep on dissing and hating and leave us to our poor pitiful delusional (delusional about how good we think we have it) life.

Suckers
P.S. Yes, this is sarcasm. Peace.

nice DE .. i can't figure out why anyone's trying to be serious or logical or reasonable or PC on a thread entitled "good ol fashion shit talking" which was started by the jedi knight of shit talking to draw attention to Grace's incessant shit talking & to stir up even more shit talking about other regions ... hmmm.


having said that, there is a serious, logical & reasonable explanation why there are a bunch of kids from california, the east coast & the rockies camped out alongside the ashlu road for the past month. here, lemme just help you do the math real quick:

 

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having said that, there is a serious, logical & reasonable explanation why there are a bunch of kids from california, the east coast & the rockies camped out alongside the ashlu road for the past month. here, lemme just help you do the math real quick:





nice deduction: why didn't they have math like that when I was in school?
 
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