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I have long used nrs frames but am now in the market for a quality break apart cargo frame for my aire 156r. I am looking for a frame that would allow me to carry two dry boxes, cooler, and two aluminum captains boxes. I am reaching out for advice from people that have this type of frame that may be able to point me in the right direction on a quality built frame like this.
 

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Pretty easy to build your own- I used Whitewatermachineworks.com fittings. Had a footbar welded up. Came out great. No expensive tools necessary. PM me if you want some pics or anything-

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Curious what makes NRS frames not a quality break down frame? Is the the need for a wrench, or something I don't realize is an issue only a couple years into rafting?
 

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Nrs frames are fine but take a lot of time to tear down and set up when it is a large frame with many components.
 

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Google "Raft Frames" The first 50 all make good frames, 40 of which are made in the USA. The one that starts with a N is overpriced by a factor of two. Whitewater Machine Works makes a good frame but the tube is a little small and henceforth satisfied with redundancy
 

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We don't own one, but the Recretec breakdown frames I've seen belonging to friends appear to be pretty nice.

We just had a custom cat frame and dry boxes fabricated by Mike DeHoff, Eddyline Welding in Moab. He may not show up on a google search since he's only been full time at it a few years. Super easy and responsive frame welder to work with. Ours was a custom 2-module frame with a lot of details that my wife and wanted included. Mike also had many good suggestions. It's not breakdown, but I can't believe he could build one.
 

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Talk to Gary at rowframes .Com. he makes great frames at a good price if you don't mind a little aluminum stain. I covered the bottom half of mine with 3 inch clear surface guard tape and it blocks most of the stains

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I made a frame out of whitewater machine works fittings last winter and I love it. Those pieces allow you to do some very cool things - and they break down quickly and easily. Check them out.
 

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Eddyline looks like all the rest half home made looking frames.I was hoping to look at his page and go wow. Been a long time since I have seen something that made me go wow in frames.I did see a little orange hyside on the Rogue with a whitewater machine works frame. It is a cool little setup for compact fly in or something. Some dude floating solo with barely any gear and a map. At least Guy at WWMW does his own thing with his own mind, developed a cool system for people to put stuff together at home, that's what I like to see. A monkey can cobble together a frame.
People really need to stop saying custom frame
Getting Design,Function,Flow and Finish out of someone doesn't happen often.
 

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The recretec frames do look very sweet and the cambridge salmon outfitter frame also looks simple and very functional what outher frames along these lines are out there, the latch in dry boxes are great idea and reduce the massive amount of straps envolved in rigging a multiday boat.
 

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That is a great looking frame! Is this your handy work?
It would be,yes I learned the day I hit the water I hated straps so everything latches in, completely crazy to have to undo straps to get in your Drybox on the river. Something I started back in about 1998 after getting materials from guys who kind of started the latch in trend in Springfield,Oregon
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Nice looking stuff, Greenwall. Is Canyon up and running again?
Nope, I am doing all the design and training for a couple new companies breaking out in 2016 and also a few other projects for product development. Some of my designs will carry on through me or the people I am working with. Some really cool stuff in the works. I have gone on to running a new river store where stuff is available on the floor with no wait time,working on getting that going. The custom orders the last two years and going in so many directions building tubes was a hectic mess after getting stiffed on about 40K in fabric from a supplier that went under. Getting down to the last frames owed by me to people now, so close to out of the woods on old promises. There are some elite projects I will still personally fab and weld

You still doing some here and there?
 

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Yes, Gary of Row frame will set you up with exactly what you want.
He is a good man, my next frame purchase will be from Gary!!!!
 

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Yes, Gary of Row frame will set you up with exactly what you want.
He is a good man, my next frame purchase will be from Gary!!!!
I just checked out his website, that is literally the craziest stuff I have ever seen. He has pages and pages of crazy. I couldn't stop reading it lol.
 
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