[Meng]

Kinda.....

well, not really. They mostly had good lines.

Anyway, check out some sweet pics of these renowned CO paddlers and Mountainbuzzers on The Big South -> The Colorado Kayak Chronicle

I also have some slide shows and sequences of some good lines and a video that will be posting early next week.

 

[yetigonecrazy]

as always, great, great stuff....keep em coming!

 

[deepsouthpaddler]

That slideshow was classic! Nice work... keep em coming. Dropping double trouble backwards after a roll has got to leave some skid marks in the shorts...

 

[ski_kayak365]

sure was fun to sit and watch! there must have been 30 -40 ppl from Cool World to Slideways. Way to many ppl.

Anyone for sunday?

Josh

 

[lotsawater]

This should be a good lesson for all the first timers running the Little North! If you are going to run saftey at double trouble, there are a couple of rules (they apply other places however I've seen more people get worked here than anywhere else).

1st: If the person is going to swim out of the hole at the bottom you need to be patient as a bagger. Do not throw the bag when they are going back into the hole, wait until they flush and time it right so that the bag gets there exactly when they start to resurface. When Dan pulled in those shots from double trouble, on film you can see when the first bag is thrown Dan was not making Eye Contact, and obviously going for another ride... The bagger should have waited.

2: Have two ropes for this reason down in that eddy, not really two people but two ropes will save somebody. The second bagger on this particular swim fully blew it and was directly responsible for Dan going through two more cycles. The first bagger was way too early and the second had his thumb up his arse and threw it when Dan wasn't even visible. I would have had some words with that fella if I was Dan. Now Dan is swimming and has two ropes in the hole with him, a boat and a paddle, that's not good.

3. There is a second "wall" in the water after the hole from Double Trouble about 5 feet from the hole that you can see. This is where people "hang out" if they are not swimming back into the hole to go deep. So you have about a 5 foot gap and 2 seconds to get the rope there in time. Granted it helps if the simmer and the bagger are on the same page about when to throw, and when to look for the rope. And obviously if you are trying to get anywhere, get left or deep.

In conclusion this rant is brought to you by countless swimmers that get trashed because of an unexperience bagger at Double Trouble. I have run the Little North about 25 times and I've seen about 20 swimmers at Double Trouble, myself included into those numbers. I have seen more often than not, the baggers blow it and the swimmer go for another lap or 4.

Boof and Release, and the Enforcer is a loser!

 

[Phillips]

Agreed. Inexperienced baggers lookout! It's like playing catch, don't throw it when their not lookin. Pretty obvious.

 

[Larsen]

just a thought, but maybe some of the 20 to 30 paddlers out there on the LNF should try to make better decisons about the drops that they run and the drops that maybe they should walk. I guess that you boy's up there like to practice running and swimming the hair on BS, y'all a way better swimmers then me.
thanks for the great day.
Larsen

 

[lotsawater]

Larsen-

You probably had a pretty good veiw from the shore.. . aren't your legs tired from all that walking?

ps. We're heading to Bailey tonight and tomorrow morning, and then we are heading down to Lake creek. You should join us for a good ol' fashion Ice Cream Game. Private Brown just called and said he might be making the trip. Plus I still owe you some Flip Flops.

 

[South_Lander]

well, well, well very good points lotsawater. i take your advice can only come from your extensive experience being seperated from your vessel but i digress.

safety at big drops and especially powerful hydraulics is important and if you don't know what your doing i would recomend not even trying to help as you could be giving the paddler a false sense of security when he/she is really on their own if the shit goes down (you know like a virgin on prom night).

when i set up below a big drop i like to communicate to everyone setting safety as far as who throws first, second, third, etc...and also when to through before the paddler goes. i also like to know ahead of time who is willing to be live-baited if the shit really goes down and have that person ready to go. before throwing a rope make sure the paddler actually wants help especially if they are surfing a hole as sometimes the best plan of action is to let them work themselves out. next if the paddler swims or wants help while in their boat you want to eye contact before throwing. when throwing i like to aim right at their helmet thinking i'm going to hit them between the eyes as you usually don't get to many chances to hit someone.

i've only run the BS a few times but would agree that DT is one of the more serious drops on that run (kind of like california class III) and if you decide to run it the best plan is to stomp the shit out of it but if that doesn't happen you had better hope your crew knows their stuff or the meaning maytagged will take on a whole new meaning.

 

[thecraw]

South Lander...

You could not be more spot on about Mr Lotsa(insert here).

As you will see from this picture here. DT has provided Lotsa with plenty of what NOT to do when enjoying a getting wet in the ol' swimming hole at the bottom.

I for one have not run DT. I am not sure many people really should. That is the type of hole that will kill someone, and in my opinion should never be run without extensive safety. Each time I have run BS it's been in crews of three and in my opinion that ain't enough. But if you are going to... hope to god that it doesn't look like Lotsa's attempt here.

 

[GAtoCSU]

Where's the video/photos of this incident?

Last time I was there we had both me and Frenchy down below with 3 bags between the two of us.

 

[Cutch]

South Lander, it appears that you are agreeing with lotsaicecream. You just rephrased everything that lotsaswims said and pretended to disagree with him. That being said, what you said made sense.

 

[lotsawater]

Marty. . . Marty . . . Marty, you shouldn't have done that. I hope you realize what you've started. I was going to let you of the hook easy, now the gloves are off old timer.

Question: Are you not employed by a kayaking company? How would EJ like your current post on the buzz. Callin' out someone that is not as skilled as you are and posting a picture on a public forum. That is great PR for your company, I'm sure your making someone proud. You are so sick!

I'm sorry I haven't been boating as long as you have, your boof is so awsome that I could never aspire to be as skilled of a paddler as you are. Maybe you and the rest of the Jackson boys could host a lesson for me and the rest of my crew. Your reputation proceeds you my friend, you are hands down the best paddler in Colorado and everybody should bow down to the skills of Marty. . . . . and then. I woke up from this nightmare.

You are a chode, you know it, I know it, and the peeps know it. Your skills are weak and your lack of cooth does not impress me. Everytime I turn around I hear another story of the "Jackson Rep" Getting Phuqin HANDED. You would think that it would be on high flow or something else gnarly. Nope, bear creek--low water--swim. Source--low water--swim. Trip to WA, the word that comes to mind is Liability. It is a trend with you my friend. You are too old, give it up. You are going to hurt your good hip.

Additional thought: Marty, that little CRAB insignia, is that a warning to all the ladies? Associating yourself with CRABS could probably be more thought out. What are you trying to say to the youth? Jump in a boat and get CRABS? That is not very responsible.

For the record, as to not let one old person spred propiganda about my incredible reputation. In that picture, it was my second lap on double trouble, of course I didn't have the best line, some old lady came out of the forrrest and seduced me. My sexual prowess was put to the test. Now I will not name any names for fear of keeping the reputation of one of the sweetest pieces I've ever had. I will tell you this however, she had the most beautiful set of "chicklets" I have ever seen. Anyway after a romp in the woods with, "You know who" I came back for my second lap on double trouble exausted, was a little too far right, Pitoned and rolled above the lip of the next drop. I then proceeded to surf myself OUT of the hole and in doing so my hips fell out of the boat and I was only held in by my skirt, could not roll, and swam in the EDDY. I am not saying that that is an excuse for swimming, I shouldn't have been such a pussy and just portaged the drop like Marty. Instead I went up an ran it a third time and stompped that shit, while Marty was off in the woods burning ants with the excitment of a school kid, off the reflection of his bald ass head.

Anyways you are proabably fast asleep having a nightmare about having to step it up on Brown's Canyon. When you wake up however you will still be Bald, over-the-hill, kidding himself, and everyone around him Marty.

BOTHKHAEAHM for short.

Have a nice weekend. I'm going to give you a public wedgee the next time I see you or maybe I'll wait until Gore and make sure there's a crowd.

Ding Ding Ding. . . Let's GET READY TO RUUUUUUMBLE!!!!

 

[thecraw]

seems like I hit a nerve... have a good day on bailey... and Oh, be sure to tighten up your hip pads. They can be hell on a guy in a hole.

Chodeking...

 

[Jahve]

Larsen-

You probably had a pretty good veiw from the shore.. . aren't your legs tired from all that walking?

ps. We're heading to Bailey tonight and tomorrow morning, and then we are heading down to Lake creek. You should join us for a good ol' fashion Ice Cream Game. Private Brown just called and said he might be making the trip. Plus I still owe you some Flip Flops.

What day and time are you comming up to lake. I would like to hook up with a group as my normal partner is out for the weekend. Most nights lately we have had to hitch the shuttle so a ride to the top would be nice.

Don't worry right now Lake is at that Disneyland level. Not even close to what she is at higher water. If it does not spike low you will have 2.6 to 2.9 in there.

Finally if I can hook up with you it will keep me from another solo run of the bottom 4 - my old lady gets pissed when I solo lake.

 

[latenightjoneser]

lotsabuttsex,

quit crying you poser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[yetigonecrazy]

"BOTHKHAEAHM" .......no offense to anyone or anything, i just felt that word needed to be said a couple more times....."BOTHKHAEAHM"....sounds like a far off island. how about a super sick line? "Dude, that was super BOTH, bro!"

i see it happening

that being said i have no opinions on this subject, again, the word just needed repeating

 

[erdvm1]

Lotsawater....is your real name Richard? Cause you sure are acting like a dick. Who cares if you screwed up DT. If you're comfy in your skin you know that most of the guys on this board would never even step up to run it. Just thought I'd chime in because "Craw" does a lot for the sport of kayaking. And joking is fun but being an A-hole to someone on public forum is not. Hopefully you recognize that an apolgy is in order.
Now kiss and make up you two ........seasons too short to beat each other up over petty stuff like this.

 

[Jahve]

Man I just thought you guys were just joking around - kinda like the BV /saliva thing - i guess not.

Should we all gather around and chant FIGHT?

 

[lotsawater]

You're right, Marty is a great guy and he does a lot for the sport! This was all in jest and I apologize if anybody took it seriously. Trying to get a rise out of you Denver Chodes.