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With all the talk about drones being considered for commercial and recreational applications, what do buzz members think about using them to scout rapids?
 

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Sounds like a pain in the ass, but then I've never done anything that couldn't be scouted from shore or boat scouted. Still, though, what would you do? Try and pack it in your boat and take it out for the occasional hard to scout drop?

I've seen them used to get some pretty good camera footage though.
 

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It would spell the end of the Un Un, which I think would suck. Its always good to have a frontier. Realistically, most folk pushing that edge couldn't be bothered to somehow pack an freaking helicopter and camera into their kayak.

There was a big thread about drones on the Rogue a while back and incited a fair bit of vitriol. Much talk of scatterguns in dryboxes and year round hunting season on varmints and such...
 

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Drones, probably not good for scouting purposes.
But drones are great for getting cool aerial shots of your buddies running rapids or getting a beat down in a keeper hole. We are planning to use a drone this spring with a go-pro!
 

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I want one too. For the footage not the scouting. Expensive toy to loose in the river. Hope to see one on the lochsaa this year.
 

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Beyond my own distaste for them in the backcountry....

I would think it would all depend on the video optics being used and the skill of the operator. Possible option for small parties but no likely large groups as you would be limited by portable screen/viewing size. Not sure you would save much time between setting up, deploying and reviewing footage.

Costly to lose if poorly operated. I know several forums of recent that have posted rewards for crashed quadcopters.

I can imagine them having their place but don't know of any rivers I have rafted that they would be beneficial enough to deploy.

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June 21, 2014

The National Park Service announced Friday it is prohibiting drones -- properly called unmanned aircraft -- from all NPS-controlled lands and waters. That includes 84 million acres in every state and territory, including monuments, battlefields, historic sites, seashores, rivers and trails.
It all comes down to noise and safety, said Director Jonathan Jarvis in a statement announcing the policy.
"We have serious concerns about the negative impact that flying unmanned aircraft is having in parks, so we are prohibiting their use until we can determine the most appropriate policy," Jarvis said.
A lawyer who represents drone enthusiasts called the NPS' temporary ban "overly broad" and said he expects it will be greatly narrowed when it goes through the federal rule-making process.
And volunteers at Zion National Park in Utah witnessed a drone disturb a herd of bighorn sheep.
 

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I've been seeing signs banning them on the ski hills this season too, and that's cool with me. They are cool for the different perspectives achieved by professional film crews, but they are quickly becoming the new gopro where every idiot has one.
 

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I could only see it practically used in that un-portageable, un-scoutable gorge were the scouting team came in over land to fly the section in question. Not all that likely to see happen, but I can imagine an application as part of the homework leading up to a run. I recently had my first encounter with one of those things while hiking in the woods. It came toward us so fast my first thought was "Fuck! Angry swarm of Bees!" It was a very impressive little toy. Annoying, yes. Intrusive, yes. Pretty fun looking to fly, yes. If it were in my backyard with an Amazon logo on it, I'd be hard pressed not to blast it out of the sky. I'd hate to see us all get used to them as a common thing buzzing all around.
 

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Like most of the gadgets now available to many of us, the use of these drones makes me wonder just what is the best use of them.

Put me in the group that does not want a drone overhead every where I go, especially on river trips.

On the other hand, those drone videos of the Rogue I really enjoyed watching. Those rapids are some of my favorites and the videos of other events like the Lochsa's Annual Crash and Burn would be fun to see from a drone's perspective. Maybe a feature length video of rapids of the Grand Canyon as well. Use for scouting of scouting some rapids as well. Possible permits from the Government is one answer to their use.

I could see the use of a Drone in search and rescue video as a key tool to find people in need. Also in Police searches and stand off hostage situations.

Do I want drones buzzing around all the time? NO !!!!!

Is there some Drone use that is OK? My opinion yes, I just do not know how to keep the bad and good use properly managed.
 

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Like most of the gadgets now available to many of us, the use of these drones makes me wonder just what is the best use of them.
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Drone delivered Pizza?
Takes away Garbage too?

Skip all that Dutch Oven weight and time cooking.

On the flight in it catches how others are doing the class IV's.

Make 'em programmed with evasive route software to frustrate the crowd that can't afford delivered pizza.
 

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On that last note....illegal for any migratory birds as defined by federal law. They are already prosecuting people on that issue.

Hopefully it is also illegal for big game but haven't looked into it.

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I work with someone that has one. Pretty cool toy, but after watching what it takes to pack it along, un-pack it to use it, pack it back up, etc, I really don't see it being all that worth it for scouting rapids.

At least with his setup, I wouldn't be as concerned with losing it or it being damaged, as it can be programmed to fly at a certain elevation on it's own and land in a specific location (down river at your next campsite! LOL), but I just see it as being more of a hassle than it would be worth. It's not quite like a go pro that you just leave mounted and turn on and off as you go...
 
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