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do you tie boats on with straps or rope?


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to tie your girlfriend down?

just kidding, which do you use to tie boats on your car? being from the east, everyone who i was boating with when i was learning tied boats on their cars with rope. therefore i learned to tie boats on with rope. now that i live in colorado, there have been several occasions when i have tossed a rope over the boats on top of my car to someone on the other side. when i walk around the person is standing there with a bewildered look on their face wondering what to do with it. do most boaters in co use straps to tie boats on? or is it just most of the people i have been boating with?
 

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the world would be a much better place if there were just enough 6-foot straps to go around....
 

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Straps are easy, but rope has more uses, can be used in different ways and is cheaper. Problem is, most people simply dont know knots. they might know a half hitch and if they were a raft guide they might know a trucker's hitch but beyond that you throw a rope to anyone and they say: "what do you want me to do with this?" Knots are some of the greatest inventions that have been passed down to us from sailors and pirates... That and rum.......And the clap probably.
 

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No Buckles on ropes
Granted dirty kayakers will some way or the other ruin your ride :)
Learn the ropes and you can tie a boat on anywhere anytime with anything....even if your cam strap breaks your not SOL.
 

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Ropes. No buckles to ding your car finish. More versatile. No need to untwist. Cheap. If it's too long, trim it down - something you wouldn't want to do w/straps. Haven't really checked it out, but I think ropes are faster to tie down with.

And if you're carrying boats on top of your ride, AND you're tying your bow and stern, which you really SHOULD do, so if you're in a wreck your boat doesn't become a projectile and do unspeakable things, and some lawyer ends up having his way with you - they don't flutter in the wind as you drive (the straps, not the lawyer).

Learn a few knots - it's worth it.

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it looks like the replies are half and half right now, but the votes are leaning toward straps. i prefer rope for some of the reasons mentioned. no buckles to break windows, scratch your paint, or dent your car, all of which i've seen happen. you only need a 10 foot rope to do what a 20 foot strap will do. rope stretches a little bit unlike straps and when your boats shift around while you are driving the rope won't totally loosen up like a strap will. i've been boating for about 15 years and have never lost boats off the top of my car that were tied on with rope. even through a little ditch cleaning episode. during that one my rack bent my rain gutter, but the boats all stayed on. however, i have had a couple of my boats hit the pavement when other friends have tied them on their cars with straps.
 

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I think it's just a matter of personal preference. I remember when everyone in Colorado still used rope to tie boats down. Everyone should know their knots from their SRT anyways. Straps are convenient and with just a little skill are not at all damaging to the car. I've never hit my car or window with the strap but unlike some of my buddies, I pay attention when I'm strapping boats down :D. I have never lost a boat (had a few lucky ones, though). I use ropes occasionally but prefer strappage. Ropes are more versatile and cheaper but also tend to stretch more and take longer to tie down when taking out in the snow :D.

For the record, I have trimmed straps down when they were too long (ones that I always use for the same purpose and knew I wouldn't miss the extra length).

I say, be good at doing both and choose what you want to do based on personal preference and what's available at the time.

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"The owner of the car must always tie the boats on. He knows how he wants it done."-Corran Addison
 

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if my boats are getting tied on top of someone else's car, i like to at least have some input if i'm right there. how someone else wants it done isn't always good enough. the two times that i spoke of earlier that my boats fell off someone else's car, i was not there to load my boat. both times i drove up on my friends picking up boats off the road. when your boat hits the pavement at 50mph it does a lot of damage. keep that in mind when you are hauling your friends boats around, and always use a bow and stern line.
 

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We (some members of our group, I actually had nothing to do with the boats, driving, or tying) lost a 2Fun off the roof doing 75 on I-25 driving home from the Poudre. The nose slipped out from from the front strap, the wind caught the boat and flipped up (vertical) off the car and landed in the middle of the highway. It got tagged by two cars before a semi hit the stern and it flew up in the air. Amazingly, the other three boats stayed on the roof and the only damage to the boat was the set of tire marks on the stern!

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ropes. I had a strap buckle fail once. I have never totally trusted a buckle ever since. I have never had a rope failure.
 

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Why not just throw em in the back o your truck?

Tomcat, send me a note and let me know how your doing.

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Rope or Straps

Cowboys use rope, sailors use line, boaters use straps (usually those of other boaters - Hey, that's MY strap! ) for tying down boats or girlfriends.
 

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Thin straps (1/2") & knots. Properly done knots never fail. Cams, on the other hand, do break occassionally.

If I'm driving, I tie 'em on my vehicle, then usually get the owner to inspect & approve, so it's their responsibility if they don't like my tying method. If someone else is driving, I usually ty my own, with the exception of a few well-trusted friends.
 

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Jeez, what straps are you guys using? I have an NRS strap holding two large aspens together in my yard for 2 years. No stretching, breaking. They are 40 ft aspens and yes its a little ghetto but it keeps em from rubbing on my deck.
 
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