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I entirely ripped off their design, only they have 1/2" ID hose and stop valves on their side of the filter.
How much did you save after your time to figure it out, order parts and assemble?
 

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I have a lot of time and a lot less money. Turns out I spent it all on a boat.
It cost me about $40.
I piggybacked some time, parts, and shipping cost from work.
I'd say I saved $50, + shipping.

They post all specs of their system on their web page.
 

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As previously mentioned this means the handwash station isn't hands-free, the only thing you should be touching with your poopy mits is the soap. Grabbing a tin can and dipping it in the water will cross-contaminate eventually, are you putting drops of bleach in the water after each use?
Cross contamination happens no matter what. Any microbiologist would tell you that surface contact is way out of our control regardless of any system we use. The tin can system is an old school hand wash that was used for years and years. We can build lots of cool stuff, but we can’t guarantee that people know how to wash their hands. We don’t sanitize the entire groover that we load into our boats that touches all our other stuff. I agree the foot pump system is great. It’s what I use. But realistically it’s less about surface contact than it is about cool stuff and convenience.
 

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Cross contamination happens no matter what. Any microbiologist would tell you that surface contact is way out of our control regardless of any system we use. The tin can system is an old school hand wash that was used for years and years. We can build lots of cool stuff, but we can’t guarantee that people know how to wash their hands. We don’t sanitize the entire groover that we load into our boats that touches all our other stuff. I agree the foot pump system is great. It’s what I use. But realistically it’s less about surface contact than it is about cool stuff and convenience.
I definitely take your point here, and it's a good one. There's no way any set of fancy gear will eliminate the chance of cross contamination/infection. The biggest issue is the one you mention in passing: Education. We can't guarantee that folks follow any sanitation practice, but having a conversation about what is 'clean' and what is 'dirty' and how to keep them separate is huge.

I come from a biochemistry background, in the bad old days when we used radioisotopes for experiments. One of the first things I learned is that if you don't work hard to stay on top of it, that sh*t gets everywhere. Even if you DO try hard, it still sometimes gets places you don't want it to, but at least the levels are WAY lower and it's WAY easier to clean up afterwards. I treat biological control on the river the same way. Have the best systems you can, educate folks about the best practices, and work so that slip-ups are minor. Keep hand washes hands-free, wipe down the outside of the groover when packing up (especially the handles), use hand san right after packing it in the boat, pack groover separated from any food/cooking equipment, etc.

To each their own, of course. I'm not a fan of "If it can't be perfect, then screw it." I'll take the extra time to do everything I can as thoroughly as I can and if/when a little cross contamination sneaks through, it'll be a little. And, hey, if that means I get to justify some extra river bling, then win-win. ;)
 

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Not quite done yet. 3/4" EMT legs sleeved inside 1" EMT with EMT straps for the hinge. Gonna put a footman's loop in the middle to attach some straps to and seal it up. 38" Tall, 68" Long, 18" Wide. Now that I learned to make sure the shielding gas is turned on, I think I'm gonna have a change of career as a welder.

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Important safety tip. Always grind the zinc off of EMT before welding, the offgassing is quite poisonous. Not to mention it contaminates your weld.
Thanks for the reminder. They were hit with the wire wheel but not fully ground down. The welding bay has a pretty serious exhaust system as all the chairlifts are galvanized and frequently require welding. Not trying to get the phosgene treatment here!
 

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Not quite done yet. 3/4" EMT legs sleeved inside 1" EMT with EMT straps for the hinge. Gonna put a footman's loop in the middle to attach some straps to and seal it up. 38" Tall, 68" Long, 18" Wide. Now that I learned to make sure the shielding gas is turned on, I think I'm gonna have a change of career as a welder.
Nicely done.
I also used 3/4" inside 1" for the leg sleeve/hinge. It's a loose fit that seems to tolerate sand/grit well.
 

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I recently made a small ladder with a bag for it, similar to a Nettie's Bag Ladder. I am really happy with how it turned out.
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Here's some bags I've done.

I usually use MultiMesh or Phifertex from Seattle Fabrics. I've also used a cheaper vinyl coated mesh for truck tarps from CanvasETC.

All done on a home machine with #18 needles and V46 poly thread. I've also done some big tarps and raft frames.

















 

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Here's some bags I've done.

I usually use MultiMesh or Phifertex from Seattle Fabrics. I've also used a cheaper vinyl coated mesh for truck tarps from CanvasETC.

All done on a home machine with #18 needles and V46 poly thread. I've also done some big tarps and raft frames.
Pro style, very nice!
 
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