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The commentary is junk, but the video is carnage gold. Man, do I miss the Gauley.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJLy37ISd34
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJLy37ISd34
Dildo Rock + Noah's Ark = WTF
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Wow, simply wow.
Not sure if they were trying to run the meltdown or what but that is pure awesomeness.
Not sure if they were trying to run the meltdown or what but that is pure awesomeness.
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I don't think they knew what they were doing.
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Just saw this call out on facespace
"Attention, Noah's Ark guides and staff. For several years now, a posse of your guides have been coming to run the Gauley here in West Virginia. As a long-time local here on my home river, I generally welcome others from out of state or country to enjoy one of the most beautiful and wild rivers in the world. But I've been watching you guys. Literally every day you are out here, I see guides with very little water reading and boat control skills doing stupid stuff on the river that most first year trainees have the sense not to do. As a video kayaker, part of me relishes seeing your flotilla getting ready to drop into a major rapid, because I know that an epic shit-show is about to take place, and I run for my camera. This past weekend, you did not disappoint. However, you have left 2 of your rafts pinned underwater in major rapids, creating additional hazards in rapids already known for their willingness and ability to cause serious injury and death. And after your epic crashes, you pile up onto the rocks and party and throw food at one another, leaving your detritus for others to clean up. You can not show up on a world class river like the Gauley(or any other river, if truth be told) and act like that. Observing your post-disaster hilarity at Sweet's Falls, you clearly find this an amusing party. But given your at-best mediocre level of river skills, it is a statistical probability that you are going to kill somebody sooner than later. Clean up your shit, learn to read water, learn to guide rafts. Then you will be welcome here on the Gauley. Until then, stick to rivers that suit your ability level. And God help your customers."
"Attention, Noah's Ark guides and staff. For several years now, a posse of your guides have been coming to run the Gauley here in West Virginia. As a long-time local here on my home river, I generally welcome others from out of state or country to enjoy one of the most beautiful and wild rivers in the world. But I've been watching you guys. Literally every day you are out here, I see guides with very little water reading and boat control skills doing stupid stuff on the river that most first year trainees have the sense not to do. As a video kayaker, part of me relishes seeing your flotilla getting ready to drop into a major rapid, because I know that an epic shit-show is about to take place, and I run for my camera. This past weekend, you did not disappoint. However, you have left 2 of your rafts pinned underwater in major rapids, creating additional hazards in rapids already known for their willingness and ability to cause serious injury and death. And after your epic crashes, you pile up onto the rocks and party and throw food at one another, leaving your detritus for others to clean up. You can not show up on a world class river like the Gauley(or any other river, if truth be told) and act like that. Observing your post-disaster hilarity at Sweet's Falls, you clearly find this an amusing party. But given your at-best mediocre level of river skills, it is a statistical probability that you are going to kill somebody sooner than later. Clean up your shit, learn to read water, learn to guide rafts. Then you will be welcome here on the Gauley. Until then, stick to rivers that suit your ability level. And God help your customers."
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I'm not an experienced boater, but, wouldn't it be better to point the bow downstream in a situation like that?
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I am not sure if the boat is unpinned yet. But once the release stops the boat should free up if it hasn't lost air. My buddy said it was still there yesterday, and he boofed off the pillowing curling wave it made a over dildo rock.
On another note, the guiding is piss poor. Learn to sit correctly in the back of a raft, learn to read water, and learn not to push pry. Video shows it. Who ever trained that "guide" also should be embarrassed. Wonder if the raft owner is laughing when he gets his pile of hypha lob back, if he ever does.
On another note, the guiding is piss poor. Learn to sit correctly in the back of a raft, learn to read water, and learn not to push pry. Video shows it. Who ever trained that "guide" also should be embarrassed. Wonder if the raft owner is laughing when he gets his pile of hypha lob back, if he ever does.
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It deflated itself Saturday night. As of 2 oclock Monday it is still on Dildo rock. The flow from the dam only drops to 800cfs on Gauley weekends. Tonight it will drop to 375.
I have been watching Noah's peeps year after year eat shit on the Gauley. Every year, every day I see them it is a shit show. Fayettenam people laugh at them, the Pit people know them, the pussies from DC know they are the crash test dummies.
Go big or go home I guess.
I have been at this game for 20+....... Warm forgiving water on the G. With lots of scary spots.
I don't like to or enjoy watching people eat shit. I can find adventure without misadventure.
Go big or go home I guess.
I have been at this game for 20+....... Warm forgiving water on the G. With lots of scary spots.
I don't like to or enjoy watching people eat shit. I can find adventure without misadventure.
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I feel like every time I've seen Noah's Ark in CO they have those little single bay frames for each boat. Do their "guides" ever have to learn to truly paddle guide?
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I've never been on the Gauley or been to Gauleyfest, but there are copious number of videos showing other raft company's with idiot guides and epic carnage. Maybe not the total carnage and idiocy shown in this video though.
I imagine most of the carnage videos show local companies and not just Colorado transplants that come out for a week of fun. For the record, I have no connection to Noah's Ark, I just find it funny that most of you are singling them out as being the inexperienced idiots when there is ample evidence that the Gauley seems to be filled with them if youtube videos are any evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkFTPwj4tqg
I imagine most of the carnage videos show local companies and not just Colorado transplants that come out for a week of fun. For the record, I have no connection to Noah's Ark, I just find it funny that most of you are singling them out as being the inexperienced idiots when there is ample evidence that the Gauley seems to be filled with them if youtube videos are any evidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkFTPwj4tqg
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I'll go ahead and put my foot in.
Don't know much about paddle rafting.
BUT
That constant manta about sitting on the tubes to get the most effective strokes AND having to row all the way through sure is dumb.
When there is a wall at the bottom and its a rapid that has a history of dumping people ..... NO!
Loosing stroke effectiveness happens.
Higher less secure positioning increases risk of boaters coming out knocking fellow boaters out of the raft.
Not using hands with opposable thumbs to hang on to the raft makes me sad.
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I'm gonna say prior to impact secure your paddle flat in the river side tube against the outside of the boat, perhaps also grabbing a skirt line and utilizing that inboard hand to hold fast.
If space allows drop to your knees for a more secure center of gravity and allow your legs a chance to hold you in.
In the above video only one raft flips, and none in the main rapid, but about half the paddle rafters are thrown or knocked out of the boat.
It is as if the Guide Mantra to row threw was designed to have MORE excitement and not a safer posture.
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I'll take my beating on-line.
Don't know much about paddle rafting.
BUT
That constant manta about sitting on the tubes to get the most effective strokes AND having to row all the way through sure is dumb.
When there is a wall at the bottom and its a rapid that has a history of dumping people ..... NO!
Loosing stroke effectiveness happens.
Higher less secure positioning increases risk of boaters coming out knocking fellow boaters out of the raft.
Not using hands with opposable thumbs to hang on to the raft makes me sad.
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I'm gonna say prior to impact secure your paddle flat in the river side tube against the outside of the boat, perhaps also grabbing a skirt line and utilizing that inboard hand to hold fast.
If space allows drop to your knees for a more secure center of gravity and allow your legs a chance to hold you in.
In the above video only one raft flips, and none in the main rapid, but about half the paddle rafters are thrown or knocked out of the boat.
It is as if the Guide Mantra to row threw was designed to have MORE excitement and not a safer posture.
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I'll take my beating on-line.
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Good call Mayhem, kind of a junk show all around.
It reminds me of that jump under the chairlift (pick your mountain, there's one) where all the grom's line up and huck it, only to land on the up hill side of the divot and explode - and they repeat it every run.......
It all just looks painful.
It reminds me of that jump under the chairlift (pick your mountain, there's one) where all the grom's line up and huck it, only to land on the up hill side of the divot and explode - and they repeat it every run.......
It all just looks painful.
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That riding the bull thing at the 2:00 mark in the video.
How common and advisable is that?
Should any rafters have leg(s) outside the boat going into a rapid?
How common and advisable is that?
Should any rafters have leg(s) outside the boat going into a rapid?
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People don't raft the upper g to hold on to the sissy straps.
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That's what they said:
Ace Whitewater has unprecedented 2 deaths on the Gauley River in 3 days
Jack Moe's Mind: Ace Whitewater has unprecedented 2 deaths on the Gauley River in 3 days
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So as not to be condescending on either commercial rafters nor other parts of the country:
A deadly season; The deaths of four rafters this summer have taken a toll on Maupin
This is near my home and I'm hoping to put in at Warm Springs just prior to the Eclipse. Stuff happens.
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