Hello, we just got off Deso-Gray yesterday (9/3), and flash flood debris in the side canyons made for a very interesting trip. More water was pushed into the main channels due to large debris fans. Butler Camp had been trashed -- not sure when. It is mostly a pile of sharp rocks now. A small group (such as our group of three canoes and four people) can manage to camp there. We found a ruined tent in the flash flood debris at Butler. Our theory and our hope is that the owners are okay. There were no poles or personal items inside the torn-up tent.