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I have this prelim info from KVOR in Colorado Springs

News Radio 740 KVOR

A RAFTING ACCIDENT THURSDAY IN CHAFFEE COUNTY HAS CLAIMED THE LIFE OF AT LEAST ONE PERSON. SEVERAL PEOPLE WERE THROWN FROM THE RAFT JUST BEFORE NOON THURSDAY ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER NORTH OF BUENA VISTA. TWO PEOPLE WERE RESCUED, BUT ONE DID NOT SURVIVE. THE VICTIM'S NAME HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED.

I am looking for any other information people may have heard, links etc., as I report these to AW.

I'm just guessing, but this would be Numbers or Fractions, if the report of "North of Buena Vista" is accurate.

It always concerns me that the Chaffee County Times doesn't have this info. That is in all liklihood because they're small and update infrequently. But I wish they were more reliable on these matters...
 

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I heard about this last night. It was Numbers. Very sad.


I have this prelim info from KVOR in Colorado Springs

News Radio 740 KVOR

A RAFTING ACCIDENT THURSDAY IN CHAFFEE COUNTY HAS CLAIMED THE LIFE OF AT LEAST ONE PERSON. SEVERAL PEOPLE WERE THROWN FROM THE RAFT JUST BEFORE NOON THURSDAY ON THE ARKANSAS RIVER NORTH OF BUENA VISTA. TWO PEOPLE WERE RESCUED, BUT ONE DID NOT SURVIVE. THE VICTIM'S NAME HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED.

I am looking for any other information people may have heard, links etc., as I report these to AW.

I'm just guessing, but this would be Numbers or Fractions, if the report of "North of Buena Vista" is accurate.

It always concerns me that the Chaffee County Times doesn't have this info. That is in all liklihood because they're small and update infrequently. But I wish they were more reliable on these matters...
 

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condolences to the family, frineds and ofcourse the guides. It is a hard situtation for everyone involved. Big props to the guides from other companies who I heard helped.
 

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If anyone hears any additional info I would appreciate knowing about it.

I was one of the EMTs that responded to the call. One of the two survivors was actually down for about 45 min to an hour. She received good CPR for that duration. About half way to Salida she had a pulse and began to breathe on her own. Once we got her to the hospital she also had a decent blood pressure. She, however, was still unresponsive. They flew her to Denver, and that is the last of what I know.

Thought and prayers are with her and her family for a full recovery.

Ed
 

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Ed, sorry you had to be involved in the incident, and my condolences to the rest involved and who lost a loved one. This is a great object lesson - 45-60 minutes down, and then she came back with a pulse. Don't give up!! Good work, Ed.
 

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It was my family on the river. The most accurate article i have been able to find is http://www.themountainmail.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleID=11358&SectionID=4&SubSectionID=&S=1, other than that i can tell you that Bea, the woman that was taken to denver, did not make it. she died around 8:30 Friday night, her daughter (the other one taken to the hospital in salida) is doing fine, and so is everyone else that was on the trip.

Ed, thank you for everything that you did, we all greatly appreciate it.

We have heard that two other people died earlier in the day, also on the numbers section of the river, and with the same guide company. If anyone knows anything about this, i would appreciate anything you know.

Thank you,

Andrea
 

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"45-50 minutes down" = brain death and other complications which she will most likely not be able to beat. Not a good situation for the family or the victim. She obviously has a strong ticker. Reviving someone after an hour is pretty rare.

my condolences
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Andrea, my condolences.

I don't think there were other deaths on the same day.

4 commercial deaths on the Ark is too high for a season. One of those was a guy with a heart condition who wasn't in condition to swim rapids, so I wouldn't pin that on the outfitters. But, the other three is still too much. What is going on?
 

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"45-50 minutes down" = brain death and other complications which she will most likely not be able to beat. Not a good situation for the family or the victim. She obviously has a strong ticker. Reviving someone after an hour is pretty rare.

my condolences
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Drownings and lighting strikes are the two best scenarios to hope for a revival. CPR was being given for that 45-60 min. O2 was getting to her brain during that time. Yes it is rare, but she was also young and in good shape, again increasing the odds.

Recent changes in how CPR is given has also increased the odds. Yes, it is rare, but this was one of those situations where you continue to do all you can.
 

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Ed, sorry you had to be involved in the incident, and my condolences to the rest involved and who lost a loved one. This is a great object lesson - 45-60 minutes down, and then she came back with a pulse. Don't give up!! Good work, Ed.
Thanks, it was a team effort. I actually was involved with the rescue side and not the medical.

Props have to go out to all the guides who helped with the initial rescue and CPR efforts.

Major kudos to the EMTI in charge for his leadership and determination.

I wish it could have turned out better.

Ed
 

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Andrea, I am very sorry about your family members, and I am sorry for your family's losses.

I would be very surprised if there had been two other deaths on the river that day, especially with the same company; it is very rare that a company will have a tragic accident like this even once in a season, let alone twice. When it does happen, everyone involved is profoundly affected; it is never taken lightly.

Whitewater rafting is inherently risky, as anyone with any of these companies will tell you, and any passenger on a commercial trip signs a waiver agreeing that they have understood these risks, although it's hard to explain to people exactly what those risks are. A good analogy is that we all know that driving is inherently dangerous, and most of us think we understand and accept the risks; unless we are involved in a head-on collision, or a rollover after a spinout on ice, we don't have a concrete understanding of how dangerous it can be and the consequences.

What is so hard to predict is exactly what will happen on the river in a crisis situation. Some people have underlying medical problems that show up when they are suddenly immersed in cold water. Some people become paralyzed by fear or shock and cannot take the necessary steps to rescue themselves by swimming to shore. Head injuries can happen even when people wear helmets. Sometimes the boater is on a stretch of river they have run many times before, and end up in trouble for unknown reasons, like the woman who drowned on the Poudre last year.

I don't think there is anything mysterious or weird about this season. More people in boats = more accidents. When you have thousands of people on the Ark, you get more boat flips, and unfortunately more accidents, with a few tragic results.
 

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ironically enough, i used to work for the same company they were out with. i know the risks, and am not blaming anyone. all things happen for a reason. my family members mentioned that they were told that two other people died less than an hour before their accident, so just trying to figure out where they heard that, and if there is any truth to it.
 

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It was my family on the river. The most accurate article i have been able to find is http://www.themountainmail.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleID=11358&SectionID=4&SubSectionID=&S=1, other than that i can tell you that Bea, the woman that was taken to denver, did not make it. she died around 8:30 Friday night, her daughter (the other one taken to the hospital in salida) is doing fine, and so is everyone else that was on the trip.

Ed, thank you for everything that you did, we all greatly appreciate it.

We have heard that two other people died earlier in the day, also on the numbers section of the river, and with the same guide company. If anyone knows anything about this, i would appreciate anything you know.

Thank you,

Andrea
When Chaffee County Deputy Becky Petrik arrived near CR 371 she learned two rafts had overturned. Jim Wingert, Chaffee County Fire Protection District chief, said 19 people were aboard the two boats.

19 people on the two boats??? WTF?

running numbers @ low water with that many people on the boats? unbelievable.

Does Nova run numbers a lot?
 

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OleMissBoater, it wasn't 19 people in 2 boats. There were 4 boats total in the group and 2 flipped. A little more info in the other thread.
 

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My condolences to all of the families involved

I was one of the people administering CPR to Bea and one of those who pulled Jane out of the water during the ordeal. I am glad to offer any additional information that the family would like to know about what happened during that ordeal.

I can say that everything was done to give everyone the best chance to live. Everything from: the bystander that risked his own life to jump into the rapids without a lifejacket to pull her out, to the guys and girls in the AVA raft who paddled as fast as they could to reach her as quickly as possible, to the guys administering CPR, to the paramedics who did a great job. It goes to show how precious life is' Life can end in an instant so we need to savor every minute of it
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I was on the AVA raft with those who pulled the daughter, Jane, from the river and then went on to assist in the rescue of the other woman, Bea. I would ask anyone reading this who is in contact with the families who lost a loved one to please send my deepest condolences.

Is it confirmed that Bea is the younger girl, Jane's, mother? How old is Jane? When Jane was first pulled from the river, we were concerned that she had a spinal injury as she wouldn't move any limbs, but my understanding is that she only suffered from hypothermia. Is this correct?

If anyone is in contact with Jane, I would just like to assure her that all involved did their best to save her mother. Those not directly involved in the CPR were praying or assisting in carrying equipment. Her mother was not alone. I, along with another girl, held her mother's hand much of the time, and a man worked hard to keep her feet warm.
 

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Andrea, were you on the trip? I was there and I am so very sorry for your loss. It was a horrible horrible horrible day and I cannot get it out of my head. 2 deaths with that same company? Do you have any more information on that? I continue to replay the trip over in my head and the more I replay the more I think that things just were'nt right.

If you were there which one were you? Were you with that boat or the Class V group?

Thanks for posting. I need some closure, glad to have the blog.

Amanda




It was my family on the river. The most accurate article i have been able to find is http://www.themountainmail.com/main.asp?Search=1&ArticleID=11358&SectionID=4&SubSectionID=&S=1, other than that i can tell you that Bea, the woman that was taken to denver, did not make it. she died around 8:30 Friday night, her daughter (the other one taken to the hospital in salida) is doing fine, and so is everyone else that was on the trip.

Ed, thank you for everything that you did, we all greatly appreciate it.

We have heard that two other people died earlier in the day, also on the numbers section of the river, and with the same guide company. If anyone knows anything about this, i would appreciate anything you know.

Thank you,

Andrea
 
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