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Anyone know what has or hasn't been run in the Park. Im looking into 1st Decents and Im not sure what has been run and what hasn't. Or which parts of creeks have been/have not.

Ive been scouting a lot of creeks and plan to scout more and run a bunch of these. Anyone interested in joining me?? Ive been soloing a few right now, but Id rather that others come join for saftey reasons. The water is low, your going to pin (in 4inches of water), logs, slides, waterfalls, tourists taking pics, rain, snow, cold, but a new area with sweet sceenery, great sunsets, and an overall excellent area to yak. Let me know

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I know most of Glacier Creek has been run, though neither of the big drops were. I also believe the Big topmson hasds been run from prettty high up. The Poudre, from as high as will float a boat has also been run. Those are the ones I know of. Which have you done? What are you eyeing up?
 

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there isn't much that hasn't been at least looked at (implying that if it was looked at & not run, it wasn't worth hiking into & running.) .. just about everything that was run, for that matter, wasn't worth running.

dude -- lake creek, vallecito, big south, NF crystal, popo agie, treasure, brazos, etc. etc. etc. are all running .. why are you spending your time getting pinned on RMNP mank in 4 inches of water???
 

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Glacier wouldn't be bad with some decent water. You still have to hike and it is a boat abusing, pin-fest somewhat. I think we did it in July from rains and natural flow from the snowfields on a mediocre year. One good gorge to drop near the bottom and a 25 footer up top that hasn't been run and a portage of Alberta Falls. There were some other quality drops making it a worthy hike-in run if you are up there and have no plans to go to Lake Creek, Popo Agie, or Vallecito.

BTW--doing the Big South is the best class V boating "in" the park.
 

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this is probably a really dumb question because i probably know where this is, i just havent heard the name, but where is Popo Agie?
 

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Popo Agie is a really cool steep creek just outside of Lander Wyoming. Todd - have you been to the Popo Agie recently? How much longer do you think it will go?? What other runs in the winds should I hit while I'm there?
 

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popo agie is basically sinks canyon state park. hike yer boat upstream & scout as you go. put in wherever you feel it. it's all good. there's one portage (river lft.) that looks like it would go at high water.

the winds have been getting pounded w/ snow, so it will have a long season. most of the eastern side of the winds is the wind river indian rez. paddling is illegal due to BIA regs, & they take this very seriously. the middle popo is south of the res & in a state park, making it totally legal. the further you go south, the more limestone-y & sieve-y the rock gets, to the point of unrunnability. north of the res, near dubois, is warm springs cr. it's OK. on the other side (pinedale) there's the new fork, which is really good, but it has a 10-mile hike in.
 

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yeah, but we don't talk about that brook ;-)

& that waterfall on glacier lands on a pile of sharp rocks. i think you could stick it if you had jet propulsion though ...
 

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I enjoy the low IV water. Lake Creek, Popo Agie, Vallecito, and big south are all outside of my experience level. Plus I work for the park and spend my evnings hiking around the creeks.
 

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Anyone who has ever completed the Bear Lake to Grand Lake trail over the divide could not have missed North Inlet creek. The convenient trail follows the creek. This is one of the bigger drainages in the park. You would want to hike in over Flattop Mountain from Bear Lake and camp at the put in or hike upstream to see if you can find a gorge. There are some big falls on the way to Grand Lake I can recall jumping off of, though it's all relative considering I was 12 the last time I did the Bear to Grand trail. Could be a long, woody class IV.

There's other stuff back there. For East Inlet hike up from west portal, there are some falls, this creek drains the west slope of the park's most southerly 13ers, Mt. Alice and Mt Isolation, down to the boundary with the Indian Peaks.

I would be very curious to hear reports of any boaters getting on Glacier with some water. Despite TG's claims of not worth running I beg to differ. Having been down the whole thing years ago I can still remember the potential in there with some more water.

Anyone ever been into Forest Canyon? :twisted:
 

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ToddG - Do you know what the level on Popo Agie is currently and how long it will be running at a good level. I did it a couple years ago and definitely want to get back there. Sweet creek.
 

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the access to forest canyon looks like it would be a bitch....there doesnt look like theres any trails, and you couldnt put in at the headwaters where the road is cuz there would be zero flow...youd have to drop in down the damn mtnside to get to anything....if anyone has done that, thats intense
 

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Yo, Sean I scoped most of that stuff too and the problem is the wood in the creek is illegal to clean so it makes the cleaning even harder than normal. Which we know isn't very easy even when you can stand there with 4 guys and 2 chainsaws and go to town. That summer when we ran Glacier another crew asked me to go up to Forrest canyon with them. They ended up going way up trailridge road and hiking down thousands of feet from the road to get to the river. They said there was absolutley no trail and it really sucked. They said the river was ok (upper Big T) and there was one or two pretty cool drops like 10' or so but the epic was probably not worth the outcome. Hope all is going well, lets hook up and paddle some more.

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yeah best not to go rambling about the park with a chainsaw! Was hoping maybe big water did some of the work since 2000. The cascades that are two or three miles above the moraine park trail head at the exit of Forest Canyon are an impressive sight. A blown line would very likely result floating off a spout into a cave. not for kayaks.
 
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