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What obscure front range creek still maintains partial virginity and will probably run this year? A couple tidbits, there is a 20+ footer, granite and sandstone gorges and Ed Hansen would have a blast with a chainsaw in this one.
 

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without looking at a topo....deer creek? the little one that flows down from near tiny town...down deer creek canyon towards chatfield res.?......
 

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Need another clue, does it flow out of Mt. Evans or Pikes Peak?

I saw a picture of a guy I work with and his sweetheart down by Pikes peak somewhere. They were standing on a wooden platform that overlooked a waterfall (about 20') and the rock in the background was sandstone.
 

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Not Deer Creek. Closer to Pikes Peak than Mt Evans.
 

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Beaver Creek out of skagway reservoir looks to have a huge drainage and lots of gradient. If its not this one does any one know if beaver creek has ever been run?
 

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Beaver Creek was attempted, but the local Fort Carson troops ended up rescuing those boys after a cell phone call "help me mommy!" was intercepted. If anyone out there attempts Beaver Creek, make sure you buy a fishing license for the free search and rescue benefits. Good guess. Getting closer.
 

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hey Tim,
my guess is Tarryall from the road out of lake george to coral access on the so platte below the gnar- gnar the bible refers to it as carryall
also, hear tell of a 20 ft. slide on the headwaters of either lefthand or james crk
I read about the aborted run on beaver creek in PADDLER definetly has a big drainage and gradient
lastly , whats the deal with Fall river i've heard there is a play park somewhere in ESTES PARK and i scouted a nice looking 4-5 right by the entrance to rocky mtn natl. anyone have info
 

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I think Tarryall has been run - it's in some old vid, Paddlemania I think. Maybe they didn't do the whole thing???

Got me thinking - any chance that 11 Mile will run? Damn I love this time of year.
 

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It is further south than Pikes Peak drainage. This creek is quite unique from anything I've seen in Colorado with respect to its geological tour. Not 8 mile. I'm not sure what 8 mile is like but Pikes Peak has great snow this year. One note about Beaver, we've done some serious Topo scouting of this one. If we are reading things right, there is a section in there that drops over 1000 ft per mile - there are two forks. Do your homework and hike on Beaver if you think of running it. As for 11 mile, I love that run at 1000 cfs - good drops, doesn't run big very often.
 

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In response to the question about fall river I think I can answer that one..
Fall river is mostly class 2-3 the rest has to be hard class five, and I don't know if it has been run.. The section that I am referring to is the couple hundred yard long section that runs under bear lake road. I am hoping to give it a shot this year if we get enough water, but I do know that it has killed several tourists. The think is a sieve/undercut magnet.. please let me know if you have herd about anyone running this section

Oh yeah then there is always the Alluvial Fan!!

Other then that the play park absolutely SUCKS!!! There is not one hole that does not flush before you even think about throwing a cartwheel. It is not even deep enough to throw a cartwheel in the flat water section...
Just below the confluence with the Big Thompson there is a decent hole that you can spin, blunt, chartwheel, and loop at certain levels..

hope that helps!!!
 

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alright TIM youv'e got me determined to solve this riddle, south of Pikes peak you say front range ?
unless it is actually the sangre de christos then it pretty much has to be the st charles or stuff coming off spanish peaks, wahatoya,the breasts of the earth i have looked at the cucharas definitely has whitewater but lots of private prop. also topoed guayatoya and wahatoya might have potential one is trib of purgatoire also no. fk. purgatoire. is it the purgatoire itself there is areference on awa site but this is sangres i believe also always wanted to scout upr huerfano and may creeks. give us more clues please
 

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Here is that article on the guys who tried to first D Beaver Creek. 600-1000 feet per mile section. Thats insane. Sounds like a good mission for someone with much bigger balls than me. My next guess is Sand Creek or Medano Creek flowing into the great sand dunes. I would imagine they suck up alot of the water thats upstream.

What do the Denver Police Department, Fremont County Search and Rescue paramedics and the U.S. Army have in common? They were all involved in a daring helicopter rescue last August of three kayakers tackling a first descent of Beaver Creek, a tributary to Colorado's Arkansas River. "Luckily, we had a happy ending," says rescue coordinator Andrew McGregor. " We had three men come out alive. They were tired, hungry and thirsty, but otherwise unharmed."

The situation arose after the three kayakers - John Weatherford, 26; William Cote, 32; and Luke Urbine, 25, all commercial guides on the Arkansas - set out at 11 a.m. for a first descent of 600-foot-per-mile Beaver Creek. Expecting to complete the 15-mile trip in one day, they quickly ran into problems because of downed trees and ended up trapped in the canyon for three days. "We had to carry too many rapids," says Weatherford. "We carried our boats for miles."

At dusk the first night, the group pulled over and made a fire to keep warm. By the next morning, they were almost out of food, splitting their last energy bar before continuing. At noon they gave up. "We came to a huge wall and figured we couldn't get through," says Weatherford, who climbed out of the canyon and used a two-way radio to make contact with a 15-year-old boy 35 miles away in Pueblo. After the boy called 911, Search and Rescue personnel made contact with Weatherford and called for a helicopter. Unable to find one from conventional sources, they finally tracked down the Denver Police Department, which agreed to help.

Helicopter pilot Bob Bosworth and co-pilot Mike Graves flew the department's Bell 407 to Fremont County, where they picked up two paramedics before heading to the Beaver Creek area. In pitch darkness and wind, Bosworth dropped the chopper down into the canyon, resting its skids on the canyon wall so the paramedics could jump out. "It was so black it was like flying inside a volcano," Bosworth says. "It was a one-shot deal."

When the paramedics reached Urbine and Cote, they found them cold and dehydrated. Weatherford, meanwhile, was still at the top of the canyon without food or water. The next morning he descended the cliff to join his friends, who, thanks to the paramedics, were now fed and warm. Later, the U.S. Army sent a Blackhawk helicopter from Fort Carson to pull the paddlers out. All three were back at their homes in Ca–on City that afternoon - a little wearier and a little wiser.
 

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The St. Charles!! ding, ding, ding. Cayo is the winner of the topo challenge. The north fork is very cool, coming out of Beulah, its not long before a boulder choked 5 foot drop with a large undercut. There are some impressive rapids on the run but the geography is the cool thing about this run. A huge granite slab covers the river in one section, you can actually paddle under it, if it is clean, scout on right, some fence action to watch out for. The south fork has been run also, except for the areas where wood is plugging up the rapids. This is low volume, committed creeking, hiking, bushwhacking fun. Lots of private property.
 

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I meant to say Geology! It was late.
 
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