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If someone has recently finished a trip in the last few weeks, Could someone quickly let me know if Dark Canyon, Gypsum, Sheep, or any of the camp sites were usable at these High Lake Levels. We are guessing NOT, and thinking we'll have to go all the way to the cars from around the BIG DROPS.. Also, How was Hite, and does it look usable for a few more weeks?

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There is sand on river right across from Dark Canyon as of last Saturday, might be getting steep though with lake level dropping
 

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Just got off it on Monday. Pretty brutal silt/mud fiesta on all the banks at and below Gypsum. There is a sweet beach river right 1.5 miles upstream from Gypsum. (Can't remember the name)The last rapids are not there due to high lake levels, so it's doable.
 

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would this camp 1.5 miles upstream of Gypsum be doable with a big group? like 28-29 people? Is Gypsum underwater? Could you camp there? Thx.
 

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I have been trying to get a hold of the River "PATROL" Rangers for a few days about this Topic. They are not answering the phone. Other threads mention some Camps with "ify" quality below Gypsym. I think were going to shoot for a longer day and spend the night at Big Drop 1 beach. Then wake the next morning finish the rapids and motor out. Our group has grown to a size that we wont fit on the "private" camp across from Dark Canyon. And... Since the camp was built by commercial opperators, I dont want to interupt their plans.
 

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I'm headed down Cat in mid-October and looking to hike in Dark Canyon. I think we're going to have around 20 or so people. Would the "private" camp across from DC work for a group of that size? I'm not too concerned about the commercials as we'll be mid-week in October and don't expect too much traffic.
 

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We had a group of 14 and camped just below the big drops on RR a week ago (Lower 24?). With about a 10am start we were able to float the remainder of the river and motor all the way out to Hite by about 6pm. 3 15-16 ft rafts with one 3hp and one 4hp motors. It was a long day, but doable.

It did look like there were a few spots on the lake where we could have camped along the way, but none were particularly appealing. We didn't go into Dark Canyon.
 

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WalshJuice,
Here is the skinny, we stopped at the Camp across from Dark Canyon. It is Crusted but campable. If there is the slightest amount of rain it will turn into a MUD PIT. It should hold about 15 people. As for getting up the silt lines and into Dark Canyon, we did not explore. It will be a real challenge, but I am sure very rewarding. The lake will continue to fall for the next few months so the challenge of getting up the vertical silt pile will continue to be a challenge. When the lake is really low the silt pile runs the risk of falling and hurting people so be careful. The other day it looked like the climb would only be 10 feet, but like I said we did not row into the mouth of the canyon. Maybe people have cut an entrance into Dark this year.. ENJOY!
 

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I have been trying to get a hold of the River "PATROL" Rangers for a few days about this Topic. They are not answering the phone. Other threads mention some Camps with "ify" quality below Gypsym. I think were going to shoot for a longer day and spend the night at Big Drop 1 beach. Then wake the next morning finish the rapids and motor out. Our group has grown to a size that we wont fit on the "private" camp across from Dark Canyon. And... Since the camp was built by commercial opperators, I dont want to interupt their plans.
I would recommend camping at Ten Cent or Imperial if you are okay with a longer motor out the following day. We camped at Ten Cent on our last night and motored out the next day. Ten Cent is an awesome camp with plenty of room for a big group. Highly recommended. We got off the river Labor day, so just a couple weeks ago.
 

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We camped at Dark Canyon on Memorial Day and also motored up DC, half mile at most. It was all very doable and the camp is really large. For sure camp would become a mud pit if it were to rain. The motor out was easy about three hours into headwinds one boat 2hp.
 

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Got off yesterday Sunday the 18th.

After the last rapid on river right there is a HUGE sand beach that would fit 40 people. Below that it's thin pickings. We got to Bowdie and a big storm came up, we looked up bowdie, and it was definitely muddy and not possible to camp. Kept our eyes peeled for anything between there and dark, but didn't find anything and ended up pushing through the storm down to Dark. Due to the rain, it was muddy. However it had rained all night the previous day, so I assume unless you had a lot of rain it wouldn't be bad. We had 14 people and everyone was able to find damp dirt (not mud) to set up their tents and kitchen, groover, etc.)

p.s. We were in a 14' paddle and had some good hits in 5 and Big drop 1!!


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Took off yesterday, camped at ten cent and easily motored to Hite by 3 o'clock. We had some rain, pickins were pretty slim once you were below the rapids. Marc
 

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The takeout's have been discussed in earlier threads. I believe there is still water on the Ramp at HITE. It is about 15 mins longer of a motor but a MUCH BETTER RAMP!!! Than Dirty Devil. Dirty Devil is FREEEEEEE though.
Hite is 15 dollars per vehicle. I think the days of using the ramp are going to start to get thin. There taking a TON ( 25,000cfs ) into Lake Mead.
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yeah, been following the other threads.

still trying to figure out what the dirty devil take out is like.

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We used the newer take out upstream and opposite from the Hite ramp. We found a decent place to back our trailer in and avoid the slime and muck. I guess the Grand is scheduled for a constant 16,000 through the end of October, so the lake level will continue to drop making the newer takeout usable. Marc
 
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