I began yaking 2 seasons ago,and started out by teaching myself the eskimo roll. First I bought a video called the KAYAK ROLL that explaines A sweep like roll,and that never really worked for me. It seems like when I "bend forward" for the set up it kills my hip snap. I've been using the c to c roll on the river,but now and then that involves an unpleasant swim. Before anyone screams roll clinic let me say that I'm hell bent on teaching myself A reliable roll. So my question is what is the most common roll,and what advice would you guys recommend? I was at the river the other day sharing a hole with two other chaps. I noticed that they were using what I think is A back deck roll when I asked one of them what kind of roll he was using he replyed WHAT EVER GETS YOU UP!!! :shock: