Takeme is lying. All i've ever done with her is drink beer. we tried to go boating once and I flipped... she stayed upright.
But seriously Kjirsten, it's getting close to time to watch the Salt for winter storm action...
Maybe the Upper A is "rafter" class V but according to the New Testament, it is IV at 1000 and IV+ at 2500.The Upper is class V. The Piedra is pretty continuous class IV. It's between Pagosa and Bayfield. Smelter can be IV at very high water- it's rare.
There's a lot for kayakers. If you're a rafter, you can also paddle boat the Rockwood box at lower water- Class IV+.
Westwater/ Cataract are only three hours away. The Dolores is two hours away. The Lower Taos Box is three hours away, fun pool drop Class III+/IV.
I was counting Rockwood as being separate from the Upper A. Length and commitment/remoteness are certainly on the V side for the run but there are plenty of IV runs out there that are still IV's despite having 1 or 2 V's or portages. I definitely thought that the run as a whole felt like a IV with a few highlights. But yeah, it's a fucking long ass day.