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i hope this forum is the right place for this.

i found an 11x19 jacks plastic cat with oars and frame on craigslist. i talked to the guy on the phone, he builds frames and sells them. we agreed on a price, and i agreed to pay him by credit card. i paid with a credit card and he said i would have a tracking order for the shipping later in the day.
it has now been 10 days, i have no tracking order, and no boat. he keeps telling me that he will get me a tracking number. at this point i can only assume that the guy is a deadbeat.
having paid with a credit card, i will get my money back from the credit card company.
his name is Shawn Altenburg of kalispell mt.

his email is [email protected]
 

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Where are you located?

I'm in Kalispell. Want me to take a quick drive and get eyes on your boat?


My name is Shawn...but not Altenburg. :)
 

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Where are you located?

I'm in Kalispell. Want me to take a quick drive and get eyes on your boat?


My name is Shawn...but not Altenburg. :)
For personal protection and in case you want to offer some gentle persuasion to Mr. Altenburg to do the right thing..........

 

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:lol:

spencerhenry, do you want to PM me his phone number? I'll call him on a local landline.

The name doesn't ring a bell, but I know a lot more kayakers locally than I do rafters.
 

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finally got him on the phone. he says he had someone else drop it off at ups a week ago and they did not fill out any paperwork so it is still sitting there. he has promised me again that he will get it shipped tomorrow and i will have a tracking number. he swears that he is not try to scam me. he says he has been in and out of the hospital. i do not know if any of it is true. if i do not have a tracking number tomorrow, i must assume that he is a deadbeat.
 

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I have a friend who works at UPS.

Let me know if you want me to confirm that there's a large parcel sitting there. :)

 

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Just for reference. I have bought some expensive items (not boats) over the internet. Sometimes it takes a little longer than expected to receive them. To put the guy's name and email on this site with a post like you did seems premature. Give it another week before you flip out.
 

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For what it is worth

The original post said he paid by credit card ten days ago.

If the guy had ten days to get the item in transit, and had not done so, I don't blame the gent for posting.

Ten days from payment is plenty of time for a honest person to get a item shipped.
 

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You'd think 10 days would be plenty.
However, try to buy any gun online tomorrow, you'd be lucky to get a tracking number in 3 weeks.
Some companies have lots of orders and minimal help.
Not everyone is as fast as Amazon.
Hope it all works out for you.
 

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i was assured a tracking number within hours of him receiving payment. it did not happen. i called him 2 days later and asked what was up, he said i would have a tracking number in a couple of hours, it did not happen. again i called another 3 days later and got no response to a voice mail. i tried to call again a couple of time to which i got no answer. i reached him by phone finally and he said i would have a tracking number that day, i did not get one. the day after that, i left him another voice mail requesting a call back or an email, i got no response again. i called early today and sent an email at 7:30 in the morning, again no response. when i called later in the day i was told that i would have a tracking number either tonight, or first thing in the morning, but he said he was not going to ups until tomorrow morning.
if i do not have a tracking number by end of day tomorrow, i can only assume that he is a crook and that it is a scam.

i also googled his name,what came up does not instill confidence.

if i have the tracking number tomorrow and the raft shows up as promised, i will be the first to proclaim that he followed through.
 

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If he is a scammer, some scammers will back down to a "pushy" customer, and figure they'll make their easy money on different prey.
If he's simply been busy, additional followup from you isn't going to hurt anything.

Either way, he screwed up. If life really got in the way for him, he's still had your money. It's not like it was COD (in which case more patience would be merited on your part).

Be the squeaky wheel. My offer still stands to help you with some local legwork.
 

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Kind of reminds me when a firend of mine ordered a loptop computer over the internet from some guy in Phoenix. After being jerked around, I called my brother in Phoenix who stopped by the guys house and announced he was from E-bay and was there to either collect the computer for shipment or the money for return. The shocked 'seller' went in the back room and came back with the laptop.

It pays to have 'family'.

Good luck!
 

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all sounds pretty damn shady to me. i say lynch the bastard
either way, good luck!!
 

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Any word yet?!? I'm anxious to hear if he really is a tool or just a bad salesperson. Very sorry you have to deal with it either way, not cool when you throw down that kind of money, especially as a boater with none.
 

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surprise surprise surprise!

another day has passed since his last promise of a tracking order and once again i have received NOTHING from him.

shawn altenburg is a deadbeat liar!
 

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surprise surprise surprise!

another day has passed since his last promise of a tracking order and once again i have received NOTHING from him.

shawn altenburg is a deadbeat liar!
I have a hard time believing you won't get your credit from visa/MasterCard

Was he advertising on mountain buzz gear swap?
 

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You'd think 10 days would be plenty.
However, try to buy any gun online tomorrow, you'd be lucky to get a tracking number in 3 weeks.
Some companies have lots of orders and minimal help.
Not everyone is as fast as Amazon.
Hope it all works out for you.
I don't understand your comparisons. This is a private boater selling used gear. This isnt Amazon, some gun store, etc. When I find a buyer and take his money, I don't sit around hoping he will just leave me alone.
 

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After being jerked around, I called my brother in Phoenix who stopped by the guys house and announced he was from E-bay and was there to either collect the computer for shipment or the money for return. The shocked 'seller' went in the back room and came back with the laptop.
That's hilarious.

Why are you not taking mt4runners offer of boots on the ground help??
I just got a PM from spencerhenry last night. I'll report back today.
 
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