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Jack's Plastics offers a blunt cone option for the larger cat tubes. Seems like a good idea - shorter boat = more maneuverable. Anyone tried them and have any input, good, bad, or indifferent? Thanks!
 

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Hi,

I love them on my 20'/30" El Tigre.

The way I see it, the pointy ends don't give you a bit more flotation in all but the most dire circumstances. So, in effect a 20' tube is equivalent to what a pointy 22-24' foot tube would give you.

FWIW.

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Jack's Plastics offers a blunt cone option for the larger cat tubes. Seems like a good idea - shorter boat = more maneuverable. Anyone tried them and have any input, good, bad, or indifferent? Thanks!
They do them on small cats as well. I have a Super Cutthroat 2 with the blunt tubes. If I remember correctly a standard SC2 would be 14ft and mine with the blunted tubes is 12 or 12.5ft. The tubes are 19" in diameter.

Seems to work pretty well for me as a mini gear hauler cat.

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I have a Royal Flush from JPW with the blunt ends. I have ran it on many different rivers and conditions and love it. If that is the look you like, the performance is definitely there. I have a few pictures of mine if you would like to see it.
 

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So, has anyone else tried them?

I' planning on having a set made over the winter. More info/feedback the better before I pull the trigger.
 

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Version:1.0 StartHTML:0000000149 EndHTML:0000002372 StartFragment:0000000199 EndFragment:0000002338 StartSelection:0000000199 EndSelection:0000002338 I have a pair of JPW 16.5ft by 28in blunt tubes. I almost got 18ft tubes, but am very happy I didn’t. The blunt tubes will carry more gear and draft less than my friends 18’ air cat, and more than a 16ft kodiak cat (NRS). They have so much bouyancy I can easily go down the San Juan at 450cfs with a decent winter load for a week, or the Salt. The blunt tubes really shine in big water. Cataract, MFS, Main, etc... For the length I can carry a lot of gear, yet stay pretty maneuverable.

People told me that a blunt tube wouldn’t surf as well; to me that is perfect, I don’t like getting my big cat surfed, its to heavy and big to want to flip. An added advantage of blunt tubes is that you can bounce the nose of things like rocks and walls. Pointy tubes will fold up, blunt will give a little bounce like a raft.

I really think that blunt tubes are far superior than pointy tubes if you are looking for a cat to carry gear and still be able to take down tighter rivers. I would think a blunt nose small cat would not be very fun unless you don’t plan on surfing and enjoying the benefits that only a small cat can provide.

Jacks Plastic will make anything you want, and they are local (at least to CO/UT/NM/AZ). They are affordable and seem to be tough, I estimate at least 200 days on mine, with one tear, and that was entirely my fault. Sotar will make tubes that are fairly blunt, the Legend cats have points, but when you look close they are still pretty blunt. A friend has a new style AIRE, it is pretty blunt, and carries a lot of gear for what it drafts versus the length.

In a nutshell: blunt on big gear boats is good, but likely a waste on small cats.

Hope for a big snow year so you can rally your new blunt nose cat down some big waves this spring!

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Pointy tips/ends - more difficult to maneuver, no tracking benefit!

Ran blunt tubes using Dan Rauer's type 16 ft boat, and also ran Larry Hoover (Horsey!!!)'s 16 ft Maravia pointy nosed boat down the MFS at high water. Comparing the two, had a better time with Dan's blunt ends because in tight river sections like Pistol and Velvet Rapid on MFS, was wishing that I didn't have the extra two feet (combined) front and aft to contend with. Reason being, you have extra maneouverability and not the liability hanging out front/back. If you do a lot of big descents and waterfalls then the longer nose/ass could come in handy, but that should not be a primary directive. Go for blunts and increase your waterline... that is your strength as a cat. Tracking is your main game, so go for the longest one with the blunt ends that you can. Maximum speed along with big diameter = cargo capacity - GAME ON RIVERHOMEY!
 

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that was quite a coherent statement Dirk. Are you okay?

I agree 100%
 

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Define OK. No not really, not to be OT here. Looking for work, place to live, stuff to do.. got any ideas? Have a van looking for a spot on the river, where there is plenty time for doo.... anyways, Matt Foley here, De-Motivational speaking my new past-time. Get the Blunt tubes, that's the point, no? Much love dgosn. Oh man. Go with the biggest diameter tubes for max cargo and less issues in big water. dirk-o-rama
 

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Thanks for the replies.

I'm rowing a 14' cat now w/alot of rocker. Been askin it to do things it's just not designed for (i.e. haul alot of gear). I like a smaller boat for slipping around easily, but want to haul a bit more with out risking my life in an overloaded cat.

I'm looking at having jacks make me a 15.5' X 26" set of tubes. that would be an upgrade from 14'X22" that I currently have. What do you think? Would that be enough of an upgrade to carry 2 + dog & gear for a comfortable week? without drafting too much? should I go for a bigger diameter tube?
 
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