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Big T is up to 241 cfs. Get on it while you can. There is also a nice Class IV/IV+ section from below the Class V down to Drake. It is not in any book though.

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I have done it down to 235 cfs and it is fine, although it does get a little bony. You can't be too choosy in September.
 

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Hmmmmm, bony roadside front range steep creek, sounds like my cup of tea! I'll be there tomorrow if someone wants to meet me, for some reason I've never managed to hit this. How does it compare to SSV? :twisted:
 

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Patrick and I will proabably hit this early in the A.M before work...like putting in at 8am or so. You're welcome to join if you want to. As for the comparison, the inbetween is a lot like SSV (technical V-), but the big drops are BIGGER than anything there (read:scary but cool). The Wall section of SSV Narrows is = in difficulty to hardest stuff on Big T. Give a shout if you want to go.
EvanJ
P.S. Anyone else wanting to run this section, before you go check out
http://www.coloradokayaking.com/main.php?pageid=Rivers&riverid=BigT
for a description of the class V stuff.
 

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Does anyone have any info on the section from Veistenze/Smith to the mouth(difficulty, features, hazards etc.)? Hope it's still running after work.
 

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There are 2 short sporty rapids between the park and dam. Below the dam offers the narrows section which is semi-continuous III at this level.Bring your playboat and expect to donate a wee bit of plastic as the "T" is still bony at this level. As mentioned, a great run to get wet on in September. For those looking for a huge HUCK, note the 25 foot drop over the dam at the mouth. While usually too shallow for survival, there is an inordinate amount of agua pumping into the river from a diversion tunnel just above the falls. It has created a huge boiling cauldren above the dam and increased the depth below. If it is deep enough......

Also, do check the AM flow as Estes Lake might have closed the valves at midnight. I was climbing in the canyon around 1pm today and noticed the flow increase. Sadly, it often only runs for 24 hours. Bring your climbing gear just in case. We will boat it around 2pm if it is still running, my # is 970-669-1929.
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Well Mr Green, I haven't swam the BIG T yet, and I am on track to swim every river I get on, so maybe we should check it out..... :wink:

I forgot your mobile # at home, so give me a call.. I wont be able to make it to the Thompson until 4:30...
 

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gauge reads 443 this morning. This won't last long. This is stomping for the upper class V stretch and the parts below should now be worthwhile.
 

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Worthwhile Dave???

Hell I was in there last night for the 2nd time. 240 two days ago was well worth it for Sept... 340 was downright awesome last night... and 443 should be fricken STOMPIN!!!!!

It's on boy and girls! Get it while the gettin's good!

But beware of some very sticky holes in there. Seriously... if you don't believe me, talk to Badkins... How does that GNR song go??? "Take me down to the beat down city"

HA

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Thanks Marty, next time you get beat down I'm going to broadcast it on the buzz! :twisted: I didn't see you paddling the so called "Class V" section! For the record I had 2 backenders, the second one resulting in an extended beat down. Oh, and the section below the class v to drake was a blast!
 

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It doesn't happen often my friend... So one must take advantage of good laugh when the chance comes around.

For the record.. I wasn't there. But I looked at the drop afterwords and it looks pretty rough in there. One of those... if it goes good it's great!! and if it goes bad it's really bad!!!

I commend you for the try, but also appreciate the chuckle for imagining how busy you must have been trying to get in back on track.

:lol:

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Big T should run through tomorrow and possibly Saturday and Sunday. We are doing some work in the canals along the "power generation" arm of the Colorad-Big Thompson project. So, we must release all the irrigation water for delivery directly to the river from the dam at Lake Estes.

That is why it is probably going to bump up to 500 cfs by Friday (tomorrow).

500 cfs. The fly-fish guys tell me that is "raging" and they're bugging out.

Go ride it while you can! We should start scaling back down Friday night and over the weekend.

Please give me a holler if you have questions, concerns, etc.

Best,
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Kara,
Thanks very much for the Beta on flows. Can you give us an update on Friday as to what the flows will be over the weekend? I need to know if I have to play hookie on friday afternoon or not!
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Arn (and other possible hookie players),

Not that I would ever advocate leaving work early to have fun, but tomorrow should be a good day on the Big T.

Our flows will be 483 cfs out of the dam at Lake Estes through Friday (tomorrow) and even Friday night. Saturday morning, word is they will start ratcheting down again and flows will probably drop about 150 cfs.

So, for Friday (9/17) it will be 483 cfs from Olympus Dam to Drake. After Drake, the north fork will probably add another 20-30 cfs making it around 500 cfs through the lower part of the canyon to the canyon mouth. After that, I think the ditch diversions are on.

I don't know where the kayaking spots are, but hopefully this description gives you a good idea of where to head out--after work, of course. :wink:

Have a good time!
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Has anyone ran the BIG T from ESTES down to Drake ?? It looks as though the run might have a bit of everything.. CRC only mentions the run from Drake East....

Thanks in advance for any info :)
 
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